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[–] Diddlydee@feddit.uk 8 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Why is that infuriating? I'm not religious, but why would this not be allowed?

[–] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 97 points 2 days ago (3 children)

They're praying to pass a bill that kicks 15 million off health care and starves children so a handful of billionaires pay less tax.
That's what Jesus would do.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

These people should be more holey

The Bible is notably silent on government social programs. Many Christians have taken it upon themselves to believe that social programs are evil, that they perpetuate the problems they’re intended to address, that they destroy the nuclear family, etc.

They sincerely believe that they are doing good by getting rid of these programs because they want to see the Christian family and the church take the central role on these issues, not the government. Furthermore, they believe that a government which tries to solve all social problems and create a utopia for everyone is fundamentally evil, hence the phrase:

“Don’t immanentize the eschaton.”

[–] 3migo@lemmy.world 59 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Separation of church and state is supposed to be a thing. Lawmakers praying inside the chamber isn't separate at all.

[–] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If André Carson, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, and Lateefah Simon all prayed together in the House at one of the 5 daily prayers, during a vote, would the USA shrug?

[–] charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nope, it'd be another 911 to the R tards and they'd scream about it like bitchy toddlers from every podium they could find

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Actually not surprising at all

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 8 points 2 days ago

That's not what that means. Separation of church and state simply means that the law doesn't favor one religion over another. What you're thinking of is the French formulation, known as laicite, which—you guessed it—is a French thing. It's also based on some pretty problematic ideas that lead and have led to some pretty problematic results, so yeah.

For a non-French example, he's the Australian constitution on the topic:

The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion, or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a qualification for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth.

Nothing at all about lawmakers publicly adhering to a religion.

[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago

They are jackass.

But this is as educated as screaming first amendment when a mod removes a post. Wow.

[–] FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think it's because these are people with the power to do more than thoughts and prayers. But they just stick with that while also taking health care off veterans and giving tax breaks to the rich.

[–] XTL@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 days ago

That's the power. They're doing more.

[–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

How would most people react if that was a group of Muslims? Or if the Satanic Church tried to do a small prayer there?

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Most would be fine with it. It's done often and both parties shit on someone last month for taking issue with it.

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/5337130-illinois-republican-mary-miller-sikh-muslim-prayer/amp/

[–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The reactions to the Satanic Temple using pro-religion laws, and social media posts about public displays of established religions like Muslim prayers, show that most Americans do not approve displays of any religion except their own. With that in mind, the reasonable compromise is that there shouldn't be religious displays inside of state institutions.

So instead of allowing members to pray in the legislature, you want them to go outside? That's not inclusive of religions either. Not to mention they can call for a vote soon as all those whom are required by their religion to pray were mandated to leave to pray. I'm an atheist, but we need to let religion die on its own. Forcing it out will cause more problems than solutions. 30 years from now it will likely be rare to see it happen. But I'll still stand by it being their right to practice on their own

[–] Diddlydee@feddit.uk -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I wouldn't care. If they're religious they'll be following the morals and views of their religion. A little praying won't change or harm anyone. No different to another group having a chat

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We knew you were concern trolling. Thanks for confirming though.

[–] Diddlydee@feddit.uk 4 points 1 day ago

We now know you will just shoot down any alternative opinion and pretend it is trolling. Thanks for confirming.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

they prayed after the bbb passed is happened