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[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

In the same they want iran to become a secular democracy. It's double standard.

Carney supported strike on iran because it's an autocracy then invite saudis who are as bad as Iran in this specific case

It is the zionism ideology that caused the nekba displacing 750k palestinian. It is zionism that was the motivation to occupy gaza and the west bank in 67, it is because of zionism that the illegal settlements are still build. You should understand why the term zioniat palestine is incceptable

[–] villasv@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

I think you might be jumping to conclusions on what I think and understand about what's happening. I don't think the term "zionist Palestine" is acceptable. I think it's unacceptable for slightly different reasons than you do.

I'm just saying that defending a jewish state is not necessarily at odds with Canadian secularism if the state in question is not Canada. The point is that defending secularism is totally orthogonal to the whole discussion. And yes, obviously if the Prime Minister is indifferent to a Jewish Israel, they should be indifferent to an Islamic Palestine. Just like they are already indifferent to Islamic Saudi Arabia - we don't see the PM giving interviews saying that Saudi Arabia should become a secular state.

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

He have an issue with autocratic iran that's ehy there ia sanctiona but has no issue with saudis because it's canada ally. Double standard

[–] villasv@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

I don't understand where you want to go with this and I think it's better we stop here but one last thing to note is that autocracy and church-state separation are different things. We started this off with secularism but you're now talking about autocracy so I'm a little confused, but regardless of semantics nitpicking I think what matters the most is that we want Israel aggression to stop and we want Carney to plainly demand so.

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 1 points 9 hours ago

I'm just saying carney is a hypocrite and have lot of double standards. He know very well what he is sayin in that video he blame Palestinians for the tragedy and how there is no two solution because of them because Israel is the west ally

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca -1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Iran was developing nukes and Carney is against that.

Instead of watching clips of an interview intercut with someone telling you how you should feel about it and guessing at what was cut out, you could just watch the original interview where he explains his reasoning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-N0Vf9Djb8

And you could go further and read the report he's referencing from the IAEA: https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/statements/iaea-director-generals-introductory-statement-to-the-board-of-governors-9-june-2025

[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Israel has illegally built nuclear weapons for its self defense, why shouldn't Iran?

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 hours ago

Because the world isn't fair, and this isn't a sport.

In a fair world there would a nuclear exchange killing millions on both sides. Is that what you want?