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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And this was said about able-bodied parasites such as owners of the means of production, shareholders, landlords, and others living off society on non-labor income.

And Ukrainians, don't forget Ukrainians. I know enough about early Soviet history to know that Stalin was a cold-blooded murderer. Not that the rest of the Communist Party was full of upstanding global citizens, but Stalin was particularly egregious.

[–] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com -3 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Here we go again with the false claims of hunger directed particularly against Ukrainians.

The Bolsheviks gave Ukrainians for the first time in history borders of their own, representation of their own in politics and the right to study for free and in their own language. There are literal letters between Rosa Luxembourg and Lenin in which Rosa argues against Ukraine getting its own representation as a nationality, and Lenin argues in favour of it (which ultimately was done).

The president of the Soviet Union after Stalin was Ukrainian. There is no precedent, no continuation, and no following episode of hunger spiking particularly in Ukraine as it more-or-less did in the early 30s. And millions died outside Ukraine too during that hunger episode, primarily in southern Russia and Central Asia.

Trying to make the 30s famine about Ukrainians is a propaganda exercise first invented by the Nazis to draw Ukrainian sympathy during the Nazi invasion, and it's picking up strength again as it's used in Europe to stoke Russophobia and anti-communist sentiment.