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[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 99 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm not pirating. I'm building my model.

[–] QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world 51 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

To anyone who is reading this comment without reading through the article. This ruling doesn't mean that it's okay to pirate for building a model. Anthropic will still need to go through trial for that:

But he rejected Anthropic's request to dismiss the case, ruling the firm would have to stand trial over its use of pirated copies to build its library of material.

[–] Artisian@lemmy.world 13 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

I also read through the judgement, and I think it's better for anthropic than you describe. He distinguishes three issues:

A) Use any written material they get their hands on to train the model (and the resulting model doesn't just reproduce the works).

B) Buy a single copy of a print book, scan it, and retain the digital copy for a company library (for all sorts of future purposes).

C) Pirate a book and retain that copy for a company library (for all sorts of future purposes).

A and B were fair use by summary judgement. Meaning this judge thinks it's clear cut in anthropics favor. C will go to trial.

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

C could still bankrupt the company depending on how trial goes. They pirated a lot of books.

[–] Artisian@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

As a civil matter, the publishing houses are more likely to get the full money if anthropic stays in business (and does well). So it might be bad, but I'm really skeptical about bankruptcy (and I'm not hearing anyone seriously floating it?)