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[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 78 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Not only that, but their business model doesn't hold up if they were required to provide their model weights for free because the material that went into it was "free".

[–] T156@lemmy.world 58 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

There's also an argument that if the business was that reliant on free things to start with, then it shouldn't be a business.

No-one would bat their eyes if the CEO of a real estate company was sobbing that it's the end of the rental market, because the company is no longer allowed to get houses for free.

[–] Glent@lemmy.ca 14 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Businesses relying on free things. Logging, mining, ranching, and oil come to mind. Extracting free resources of the land belonging to the public, destroying those public lands and selling those resources back to the public at an exorbitant markup.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Unregulated capitalism. That’s why people in dominant market positions want less regulation.

[–] slumberlust@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Entrenched companies often want more regulation to prevent startup competition. Pulling the ladder up behind them.

[–] finder585@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Extracting free resources of the land

Not to be contrarian, but there is a cost to extract those "free" resources; like labor, equipment, transportation, lobbying (AKA: bribes for the non-Americans), processing raw material into something useful, research and development, et cetera.

[–] mac@lemm.ee 1 points 32 minutes ago

Was about to post the same thing

[–] msage@programming.dev 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The entire internet is built on free things.

Just saying.

[–] SeekPie@lemm.ee 8 points 6 hours ago

Doesn't mean that businesses should allowed to be.

[–] freely1333@reddthat.com 9 points 12 hours ago

even the top phds can learn things off the amount of books that openai could easily purchase, assuming they can convince a judge that if the works aren't pirated the "learning" is fair use. however, they're all pirating and then regurgitating the works which wouldn't really be legal even if a human did it.

also, they can't really say how they need fair use and open standards and shit and in the next breathe be begging trump to ban chinese models. the cool thing about allowing china to have global influence is that they will start to respect IP more... or the US can just copy their shit until they do.

imo that would have been the play against tik tok etc. just straight up we will not protect the IP of your company (as in technical IP not logo, etc.) until you do the same. even if it never happens, we could at least have a direct tik tok knock off and it could "compete" for american eyes rather than some blanket ban bullshit.