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[–] Technus@lemmy.zip 149 points 1 day ago (5 children)

The suspect faces several charges of second-degree murder.

This baffles me. Looking up your fucking victim's addresses isn't enough evidence of premeditation to qualify for first-degree charges?

[–] three@lemmy.zip 148 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In Minnesota, a grand jury is required for first degree. This is just a placeholder charge until they can get a jury.

[–] Technus@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 day ago

That's what I figured after thinking about it, that there had to be some procedural reason for it.

[–] centof@lemm.ee 39 points 1 day ago (3 children)

If he was left-wing, this would be prosecuted (and propagandized by the media) as terrorism.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 23 points 1 day ago

he wouldve been charged already, much like with mr luigi was. since he targeted the protected ":class"

[–] Technus@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 day ago

Which, funnily enough, would also qualify the murders as first-degree under Minnesota state law: https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.185

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

As a non American, wtf happened with that dude that almost killed trump? I feel like I heard about the whole thing when it happened, but it kinda just went away and I’m not even sure what that guy’s deal was. Maybe because we didn’t get all the headlines in Canada, but it certainly felt like it was brushed under a rug to me.

[–] phcorcoran@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

He got killed by the secret service during his attempt, I'm not sure they were later able to assess motive and stuff

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Seems like there was more reporting on their clothing choice than on the person themselves.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Arguably, the list alone, plus the customized police vehicle and police outfit, would be enough premeditation.

That’s a charge that’s guaranteed, and may be all they need to achieve the outcome of him going away forever. They’re also free to charge him with more things, once the investigation finds more evidence

[–] skribe@aussie.zone -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Luigi is white and they’re trying to send him to the gallows.

I think him being conservative is the factor here.

Although I agree if he weren’t white he would be treated way worse…

[–] twice_hatch@midwest.social 5 points 1 day ago

If the Nazis stay in power long enough, they'll revert Irish and Italian people back to non-white

[–] yesoutwater@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

IMO nothing to do with the murderer, all to do with the targets. If the assassin was a black conservative dude popping off perceived liberals/Democrats/socialist/antifa/any other word it would be the same. If the dude was a white conservative and was shooting at perceived Republican/Nationalist/fascist/bootlickers/bigots and or billionaires, straight to the gulag.