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[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 66 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

American Revolution. French Revolution. Iranian Revolution.

Just a few very violent, and successful, revolutions.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

I don't really know if I'd consider the French revolution very succesful, considering the fact that the Bourbon dynasty was restored after only 16 years.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

I'd argue the French revolution is probably one of the most successful.

[–] cabillaud@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

For how long? Irrelevant answer. The French Revolution was about shifting the ruling from nobility to bourgeoise and it's exactly what happened. Valid to this very day.

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

If we allow them to make us violent, they will crush us with police/military force. It's already happening. Do NOT get baited into killing your own insurgency.

The guy who shot Hortman had "no kings" posters in his car. He was trying to incite violence so the police would have an excuse to shoot protestors. Don't let these people bait you.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 14 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Have you seen the videos of the No Kings demonstrations around the country? They were enormous! Not only were they far larger than I expected, they were MANY times larger than I expected.

The MAGA Nazis can try to suppress those crowds, but no matter what the outcome, they will lose. This isn't pre-Internet Tiananmen Square, where the government can simply deny it happened. The entire planet will know.

If they fire on American protesters, no matter the justification, the MAGA Nazis government will make enemies of every Democratic nation in the world.

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I agree, and I think that OP is trying to say, non-violence such as the no kings protests will be more effective than bloodshed

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I have to say, the size of the No Kings crowds truly surprised me. I knew they'd be big, but these were HUGE!

HitlerPig is obsessed by ratings, polls, popularity, etc. The size of those crowds, in EVERY major city in America, must have scared the bejeezus out of him. The problem with that is that a shallow thinker like him can only conceive of a few responses, and ferocious violence is probably the first option that comes to his empty mind.

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

That's right! And, adhering to that strategy would be falling right into his hands. Which is what OP is saying.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Wrong. They need to be afraid of us, and enormous opposition crowds help sell it. It also demonstrates to them that no matter how many troops they deploy, there are MILLIONS of people turning out in EVERY major city. They don't have nearly enough troops to put down every demonstration.

It's always good to make them question their own arrogance.

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

...You're saying that my analysis of OP's article is wrong?

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I'm saying what I said. Read the words. That's what I said.

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 1 points 11 hours ago

Have a good day.

[–] Hawanja@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Who's going to fight in your violent revolution? You? We couldn't even get all the people who voted for Biden to Vote for Kamala. Right now a large portion of African Americans are refusing to join the protest movement against encroaching fascism because Trump is somehow a "white people problem." How do you think a revolutionary army or even an insurrection of sufficient strength to challenge the United States Government would ever take hold when there is zero solidarity among the left? We can't even get people to vote in their own interest, let alone support a violent revolution. This is pure fantasy.