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[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_King_Jr

This one was only made possible after war was fought 100 years prior

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahatma_Gandhi

This one came about as the final straw in the British Empire's back that was started off by the American Revolution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissolution_of_the_Soviet_Union

This one was was caused by the USSR suffering multiple setbacks after its war in Afghanistan, multiple proxy wars (e.g., Six-Day War and the Yom Kippur War; the Angolan Civil War; Somalia and Etheopia; Nigerian Civil War; etc.), putting down attempts at reform in the eastern bloc (Praque Spring the Polish Crisis), the massive unrest that had plain-clothes secret-police beating protesters just before the Berlin Wall fell, a violent revolution in Romania, and the August Coup failed.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That doesn't really refute the point, at all?

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I thought you were making the point that they were peaceful , and I was refuting that stuff was peaceful.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

"There were violent acts previously" does not refute "These groups achieved success with moral persuasion"

Fuck's sake, you're connecting Gandhi's success with the American Revolution, MLK Jr. with the Civil War, and the fall of the Soviet Union with every major war it was involved in throughout the Cold War.