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Liberals right now... (lemmy.world)
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[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 16 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

question

I've been thinking today.

it's illegal to block the road, you can get in trouble for a sit in, or by parking on the road.

but how about just driving on a road and respecting the speed limit?

how many drivers do you need to all agree to drive on a specific road, in circles to congest it and create a nightmarish traffic jam.

it's better to be strategic and do so during rush hours. 50 protesters could easily halt the traffic of some main arteries. and really hurt the economy.

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 9 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Stop giving a shit about what is illegal. It was made illegal because it was effective. The establishment doesn't want you to be effective.

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 5 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

if I'm detained I'm not getting arrainged and released, im getting deported and never seeing my daughters again

or maybe end up in an Salvadorian prison

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Only doing things that are legal won't protect you, us the point. If that were the case, this wouldn't be such a big deal.

Not 'you must do crimes'.

Edit: i get it. Its fucking scary. I have a lot of critiques for 'society of laws' stuff, but i can appreciate what the benefits are supposed to be, even if it's not my favorite. We just... Don't have that right now.

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

You forget the fact they are doing this to countless people regardless. They don't get to make that choice to just sit this out.

It's called having solidarity with those being targeted, accepting the same risks they are being subjected to by simply existing, in order to help defend them against oppression. Part of that oppression is how the State has designed its laws to inhibit the ability of people to fight back against it.

If you allow the opposition to dictate how you are allowed to resist, then you already lost because they will never just allow people to effectively resist their authority. Change requires mass civil disobedience.

Or, continue to follow the rules of the oppressors, fail to effectively resist, and when they are done coming for their current target, they will eventually get around to coming for you, except by then you won't have anyone around to help defend against it.

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, but I'm calling you bs

it's not called having solidarity, I'm one of those at risk.

that's like saying vulnerable people at risk of COVID need to have solidarity to other people and go out without masks.

I'm going to protests, I'm doing what i can, I volunteer in mutual aids, and I fear every moment that ICE will detain me and I'll never see my daughters again.

I'm not your pawn, and I'm already doing whatever I can while keeping myself safe. It's American voters who put me in this situation. and now they want me to put myself at risk even more?

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 4 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Then you should already understand that keeping your actions "legal" doesn't guarantee protection, and that forgoing effective means of resistance only helps the oppressors to have an easier time oppressing your fellow people.

The voters are not responsible for your oppression. The regime that is engaging in oppressive practices is.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

If the punishment for breaking a rule is a fine, then it's not a rule meant to help people, it's meant to give the wealthy power to do what they want.