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The karma system increases engagement, which entices shareholders, resulting in an increase of share price.
I apologize but I fail to see how.
It restricts how often you can post and where you can post so if all the low karma subs do't interest you. Then you will either not use reddit or use it less.
Again people spend more time doing things they like. To use my spotify example do you think a sabrina carpenter fan will listen to conway twitty as often as they listen to sabrina ? No they will not. So at best you get them to bite the bullet and drag their feet gettign through the hours and at worst they leave.
Again how comes no other social media site works this way ? TiktTok and it's Chinese sister apps like Xiaohongshu and Douyin are seen by even the western tech sites as the kings of maximizing user engagement and participation. So much so it's a meme how much TikTok is addicting, meanwhile does reddit addict the same way ? There are people addicted to reddit in the same way there are people addicted to eating Styrofoam but there are more people addicted to sugar then Styrofoam
The karma itself is the gamification that increases engagement.
The gated subs, karma limits, etc. are there to cut down on spam, low-effort content, brigading, etc. in large communities to keep the engaged users more engaged so hopefully they spend a few more dollars on silly updoot awards.
It's all supply and demand, profit-driven decisions. If a feature like karma limits alienates a small number of users, it is still worth it if it retains and engages with more high-value users who invest money in the platform with their ad viewership and direct purchases.
https://youtu.be/gEK1G1WQM64
This guy had at one point the third highest karma of any reddit user in history.
He did everything everyone swore up and down the karma system was deigned to prevent
He stole content from imgur H used python scripts to leave his computer open and post more He talked about issues he knew nothing about focusing most of his post on us politics despite him benign a 15 year old Italian kid who himself admits he knows little on us politics
Yet Karma rewarded him
You're not going to get an argument out of me lol. I had a Reddit account for over a decade. I was addicted to the karma system of Reddit, it was seriously negatively impacting my life. I finally deleted my account and moved here recently, it's been one of the better changes I've made in my life. You can completely hide post scores here, and the communities are smaller and less active which drives a more genuine engagement vs the hot-take one-liners, memes, and low-effort post replies.
Reddit can burn to the ground and cease to exist for all I care. It's become so big and full of hate and misinformation.
My legitimate advice is just... don't go back and save yourself the headache.
Sub moderation and site administration are two different things. Site administration wants engagement numbers, mods want to reduce their workload.
Popular subs are run by moderators who don't want spammers and trolls with new accounts so they put in the karma restrictions so the smaller subs can get those users first. They also have what they think is 'spammer and troll behavior patterns', which looks the same as a new user who wants to post in a specific high traffic sub with a karma requirement It is stupid, but they have fewer comments to moderate in their very busy subs so they consider that a win. They want long term users who have a history they can use, because they are popular.
Most reddit subs not run like that.
But the reasons that lead to that end result are wanting engagement numbers to increase shareholder value as the other two printed out. That is also reddit administration doesn't seem to do anything significant about bots posting slop, because it inflates those numbers.
It's control they control and manipulate the up votes and push whatever narrative and advertising they want to the top. That control makes them money.