It does not matter how calm or reasonable the comment is, if it's deemed to be in dissent of the Tankie mindset it's removed and you're banned

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For context this next one ~~might have been~~ (have confirmed with Vitaly) was a comment to https://lemmy.world/post/26045579 (Crossposted version, original that was on .ml memes comm was removed as well so I can't pull up the original to pair the modlog entry to the post like I did for the first 2 screenshots)

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I've been interested to ask this after seeing so much happen in this community. How would you define a troll? The modlogs show many communities have rules against "trolling" but what is actually going on that makes it register with people.

I'm making an instance of my own and wanted to know. The last time I was on here, there was a drama about a mod which was based on another drama about the same mod, and this in turn was based on another drama about the same mod, which itself was based on a drama about that mod. That's a revelation with many implications I never see mentioned, that these are all connected (why isn't anyone mentioning this). I know this person, I know it's slander against her. Everyone called her a troll though for defending herself, which a few argue is in the same way a lot of people don't see issue with outright releasing private information.

I am a community owner and am on hiatus from helping out in another instance. I wanted everyone to know the person making the claims about her has been vetted and given the boot at least once, while the mod has been vetted and cleared of all suspicions, especially with it coming out now the people involved have compromised their agenda. I see he has gone on Shitter (linking to it only because XCancel is a mess and doesn't have a "sort by user replies" category system, which is an enormous oversight, and because this is someone who was praised on here with a hundred upvotes) to mass-slander-campaign against the person, as that's the sole bulk of their reply history. In a way, he even makes us look bad. These people are obsessed enough I understand the motives behind a previous question here that caused a lot of raised eyebrows. And that's not a troll? Is Shitter suddenly okay to reference again, considering the indifference with them? I'm eager to make it okay in my instance if it is.

Lemmy doesn't like it when apologies :[

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https://lemmy.world/modlog

Edit: Image description for Brits:

Dragon Rider (drag) being banned from the following communities for sharing DMs:

• !19684@lemmy.blahaj.zone
• !196@lemmy.blahaj.zone
• !egg_irl@lemmy.blahaj.zone
• !transgender@lemmy.blahaj.zone
• !accidentalrenaissance@lemmy.blahaj.zone
• !main@lemmy.blahaj.zone
• !trans@lemmy.blahaj.zone
• !mtf@lemmy.blahaj.zone
• !onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone
• !transmemes@lemmy.blahaj.zone

This further proves the case that this post was talking about https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/14003044

Cross-posted from "We Need to Hold the LW Gatekeepers Accountable" by @Sunshine@lemmy.ca in !traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns@lemmy.ca

A meme was posted to c/memes@lemmy.world with a partial picture of a driver's licence. The Lemmy users in the comments proceeded to post all the identifying information they could get from the license, including gender, date of birth, and zip code of the person's home. The meme is probably reposted and so this isn't doxxing the Lemmy OP, but that's what the users in the comments seem to think they're doing.

Collecting and disseminating someone's personal information is doxxing even if that information could be found anyway with enough time and knowledge.

https://www.sav.com/auctions/details/7073489/hexbear.net

Update: it’s now US$1921.00

Auction: https://www.sav.com/auctions/details/7073489/hexbear.net

Not sure what will happen, but seems to be a Fediverselore event for sure

Update: post from hexbear admin on chapo.chat: https://chapo.chat/post/4468531

This was originally posted as a comment response in !asklemmy@lemmy.world.

Back in December, the instance hosting 196 (lemmy.blahaj.zone) announced that, as part of its mission as a trans-friendly space, harassment based on gender or neopronouns would remain** prohibited—even if the user in question was suspected of being a troll. Users were asked to disengage, block, and report suspected trolling behavior rather than bring harassment into a community already vulnerable to that kind of bullying.

There was a small backlash to the policy from some users. This led to a number of “toe the line” posts that weren’t outright gender-based harassment but strongly signaled an intent to misgender or harass in the future. Blahaj admins promptly removed all offending comments during this wave of dissent.

Important to note: The majority of the Blahaj and 196 users supported the policy, upvoting and praising the admins for creating a safe space for trans individuals.

By January, the backlash had mostly subsided, and the trolls causing issues had moved on. While the 196 moderators, including @moss and their team, did agree with the specific neopronouns policy, they remained unhappy with the broader policy of respect for trans identities. They cited “personal differences” and expressed discontent with instances where Blahaj admins directly removed comments which harassed or openly expressed intent to harass trans identities, feeling that it overstepped their role.*

Yesterday, @moss and the 196 moderation team enacted a major decision without consulting the community. They locked !196@lemmy.blahaj.zone and instructed users to move to !196@lemmy.world.

This move was extremely unpopular. Many users strongly dislike lemmy.world for various reasons (a complicated topic better unpacked elsewhere). The announcement post was met with widespread backlash, and @moss eventually locked it. In response, a few users created a new community on Blahaj: !onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone. The new community quickly grew in size and activity, with most users opting to stay on Blahaj rather than migrate to lemmy.world.

It’s clear @moss and the 196 moderators underestimated the community’s attachment to its home on Blahaj. By attempting to uproot the group without input, they alienated much of the community. As a result, most users have moved to the new Blahaj-hosted community, which has already become the more active space.

TL;DR:
@Moss and the 196 mod team tried to move the community to lemmy.world without consulting anyone. The decision was extremely unpopular, leading to backlash and the creation of a new Blahaj-hosted community that most users now prefer.

*This paragraph has been edited after receiving correction or clarification from @A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world. You can find that discussion here.

**”Remain” being the key word here. Blahaj has openly held the same trans-focused policies as always, and the admin Ada was simply reasserting her position here.

Forgive the vent, but it used to be that the instances were all simply opinionated in different ways. You could talk to anyone from any instance without anyone getting upset so as long as you were respectful. Being in an instance used to be enviable enough to jest about.

Early on, it went from that to "my opinion should not be pushed back against". For a while, you could not go into ML territory, for example, and challenge their status quo. Recently it has reached another new level, where people will obliterate you simply for being neutral, and this was after they began to break their own rules. Individual cities in my home country are beginning to consider banning the fediverse, and that's only because the country itself stopped short of doing it. I thought the fediverse was supposed to make things easier to enjoy. How can we trust we can look up to it in this social environment?

Synopsis

(trying to be neutral here)

Hazycora[^1] was informally hired to work on Loops web UI. Then Daniel[^2] posted about his idea to launch a video ads network for Loops (which he latter admitted was a joke), and Hazycora commented that such posts hurt people's trust in him.

This was followed by an avalanche of mutual accusations, which I shall not dwell, as a result Hazycora no longer works for Loops.

Consequences

• Accounts using "hazy.gay" email domain were banned on loops.video with a fake dubstep-posting Kamala Harris account as an excuse. This also breaks guest browsing on loops.gay.
• Hazycora's username on loops.video was forcibly changed from single-letter "h" to "hazellll".
• Disassemblies of the Loops client were published on GitHub.
• Hazycora says she has got more than $500 in donations in the past two days; Daniel says his following count is growing, and hers are going down; both claims need verification.

Footnotes

[^1]: Admin of besties.house and git.gay. Created loops.gay, the first web client for Loops. [^2]: Daniel Supernault (aka "dansup"). Creator of Pixelfed (federated Instagram clone), Loops (federated TikTok clone), FediDB, fediverse.info, pubkit.net and yet unreleased Sup messenger.

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The original post by @spujb@lemmy.cafe was a woman wearing a shirt that says "Italians do it better". Someone asked what they do, and drag explained the joke as best as drag understood the intention, though drag disagrees that Luigi killed that CEO. It's not a call for violence, it's an explanation of a joke. Other people interpreted the joke the same way.

Less than an hour later, Flying Squid banned drag for that explanation, and for saying Luigi is not guilty. According to Flying Squid, referencing the CEO shooter case and saying Luigi didn't do it is a call for violence. Expressing support for Luigi Mangione is a bannable offense on LemmyShitpost.

EDIT: The Picard Maneuver responded to drag's appeal and reversed the ban. Drag will be deleting this post as it is no longer relevant to the current state of affairs on Lemmy Shitpost.

Cross-posted from "Announcement regarding the instance..." by @kapx132@lemmy.autism.place in !autismplace@lemmy.autism.place

It is with great sadness that i write this. however The Admin team has parted ways. I have closed registrations, and disabled the option to create new communities. The server will be ran until the payments dry up (about ~1-2 months). We have tried to build a community for autistic people online. It ended up not working for which we apologize. Please do not go after the other team members. Some disappeared, some went their ways, but whatever the reason i wish them the best. If you have any questions, leave them here and i will try to answer them.

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/22298719

Image credit in original post :)

After being harassed in multiple discord channels by powermod FlyingSquid the news mod blackbeard has shuttered his account and moved to bluesky.

https://ibb.co/cY44MgF

https://lemmy.world/u/Blackbeard

"The recklessness with which people downvote polite disagreements reminds me of all the worst parts of Reddit, and it proves to me that this isn't the social media savior I'd hoped it would be, and is instead just another echo chamber. I hope eventually lemmy.world (and the fediverse more broadly) can grow out of that, but some of the behavior I've seen on the inside from both mods and admins doesn't really inspire much confidence for that kind of evolution in the short term. "

FlyingSquid is the same mod who has the power to siteban people from lemmy.world

Why does lemmy.world keep having issues with their powermods and admins? Why do powermods get the ability to siteban their enemies from the largest instance?

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Moderator of ye powertripping bastards allows Lemmy.World moderators to lie and slander all over the place but does not appreciate those Moderators being called out on their lies.

After removing this post calling out Lemmy.World for banning users criticizing Kamala Harris, DB0 moderator also banned me from their instance.

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And this is the Hexbear reply thread. Please be very wary of the extremism and bigotry and know that they are largely defederated

That moment when, if I ever get banned from the ML instance, one might as well tell me to treat it as an extension of the act of fleeing while entrusting Archive Today and the victim to relay this message (totally becoming of the spokespeople for the people's liberation, /s also I would not voluntarily remove a thread of mine, so if this is gone by the time you get the archive...).

I consider myself a typical Orwellian person within the ML instance (fun fact, stands for Marxist-Leninist) who believes in the validity of debate, diplomacy, and standing up for oneself, having signed up for ML because the others were overcrowded when I was led to see Reddit as bad news due to the API (yet here I am). If I don't want to engage with someone, I leave, and if someone disobeys the rules of something I'm the admin of (not any instance), I ban them with tools already at my disposal (as opposed to actual attacks using tools not anyone's business, and that was after banning her). Sadly this isn't everyone. Worth mentioning on behalf of someone afraid of breaking rules against block evasion/retaliation, being the Orwellian I am who won't stand for things like the creed-based/LGBT discrimination I see. I see this (unauthorized username revelation and a false excuse of finding a rabbit hole) and I think "what's next, will admins threaten to reveal our passwords as the norm in due time". The US is on the verge of banning Tiktok for such shit, and here we are thinking of ourselves as invincible, like some cult.

When someone then mentions it on Reddit with her permission (and yes I have permission too), he shows up, claims she has the same name on 20 sites (when the dox that anyone can read clearly shows otherwise, and I did doublecheck his new claims, they're false again), and tries to demoralize the thread. I'm ashamed personal attacks and stealing info/photos is the norm for my brethren. And I'd bet a pretty big wager to prove me wrong, just to see if people would think they can.

This is out of hand, can we either overhaul admins or defederate ML considering all the threats of banishments make it dead weight? Because I feel like a sanction is in order.

The community /c/soulism@lemmy.blahaj.zone was removed by the instance admins two weeks ago. The community contained only memes and discussion of the ideas of soulism. There were no attacks against anyone. Here is the admin's explanation of the situation:

https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/9875313

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Transcript:

ADA:
The post you linked to by MindTraveller is an active misrepresentation of events by them

Traveller and I are not “in agreement” about much of anything. Their politics are very far removed from mine

This is the text of the message I sent advising that I was shutting the group down.

After consideration, I’ve decided that non voters does not really fit the stated goals of blahaj zone. Your motives for creating it seem based on a personal vendetta, and whilst your views are genuine, nothing constructive comes from the community. All it does is create division, because its sole purpose is to target others, without really focusing on any progressive ideas or discussion of its own.

At the moment, it’s causing more harm than good to the overall community.

I’ll leave the community open, so that if you choose to set the community up on another instance, you will have the opportunity to direct them to the new location.

Given the post which you linked, (which I had not seen until now) I will be removing Traveller and the new community, because once more, the goal appears to be to create division

The goal of blahaj zone is not political. The goal is to allow trans people to have a space where they can exist on their own terms, without having to pretend to be someone they’re not. My own political views are closer to Links/LibertyHub than nonvoters or its ilk. Yet as long as there is no bigotry or gatekeeping, then trans people with politics at odds with my own are welcome. It’s why we have an “armed queers” community, despite my own strong distaste for gun culture.

It is communities/posters that exist primary to create division, without adding anything positive back, that have no place here.

This comment contains only one side of the discussion I had with Ada about Non-Voters and Soulism, here is the full context (top is newest, bottom is oldest):

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ADA:
Hey there. After consideration, I’ve decided that non voters does not really fit the stated goals of blahaj zone. Your motives for creating it seem based on a personal vendetta, and whilst your views are genuine, nothing constructive comes from the community. All it does is create division, because its sole purpose is to target others, without really focusing on any progressive ideas or discussion of its own.

At the moment, it’s causing more harm than good to the overall community.

I’ll leave the community open, so that if you choose to set the community up on another instance, you will have the opportunity to direct them to the new location.

MINDTRAVELLER:
Thanks for letting me know. I don’t mind if nonvoters is gone. It served its purpose. The guy who was banning trans people and calling us liberals for not wanting to die is no longer in power. The Blahaj community is no longer divided. We achieved unity. And sure, some people are whining that they have to get along with others now, but the tide is against them. I’ll see if there’s a way to lock the community and prevent new posts. I want to keep the most recent post visible so in two months when the transphobes start whining about Kamala I can link that post and tell them “called it.”

MINDTRAVELLER:
There we go, all locked up. No new posts or comments.

MINDTRAVELLER:
Also, your mention of constructive politics gave me an idea. I want to create a soulist community on Blahaj. Something like https://www.reddit.com/r/Soulism101/. That place has been a ghost town since the APIcalypse, but the soulist movement has been going strong on Discord. It should have a place on Lemmy too. Plus, it would dramatically reduce the number of people mischaracterising soulism on the fediverse. The only attacks shall be against capitalism, the cisheteropatriarchy, the state, and reality.

ADA:
That sounds like a much better fit!

Non-Voters was completely locked up, and I made a post explaining the decision to close it, which both Ada and I agreed on, as you can see in this message log. In Ada's later public comment, she says the post was a misrepresentation of events. She said that she and I did not agree. However we can clearly see in this chatlog that when Ada told me the community was closing, I agreed to close it. And when I asked to open a new community not focused on any form of criticism of others users, she agreed too. If I had not agreed to do as Ada said and close the community, there would not be a post from me announcing the community's closure. So the idea that Ada and I did not agree to close the community is nonsense.

At the time that /c/soulism was removed from lemmy.blahaj.zone, I had in fact already been unbanned from /c/libertyhub by the community's mods. Ada cites division as the reason for the removal, but there was no division at this time, except between some Liberty Hub users and their own mods. Here is the log:

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MINDTRAVELLER:
Hi, I’d like to appeal my ban on Liberty Hub. I never broke the rules, I only complained about LOC’s overly strict moderation style. I was banned with the reason “off topic”, which isn’t a rule.

KITTENZRULZ123:
I unbanned you however know that you have broken the rules, if you make me regret this act of leniency I will reban you.

At this time, the division between Non-Voters, myself, Liberty Hub, kittenzrulz, and linkopenschest had been resolved. Non-Voters had never been a community specifically designed to target Liberty Hub, and in fact linkopenschest and kittenzrulz both had posts on the community that engaged with the concept in good faith, and which I did not remove. They were never banned from the community, and they decided to reverse my ban from the community. So the three of us had been engaged in a good-faith disagreement from the start, minus one impulsive ban that was reversed, and we had already set our differences aside. I became an outright ally of Liberty Hub when they decided to relax their excessive bans, and they were exploring the possibility of treating me the same way.

Here is where I diverge from pure fact to analysis and speculation: Since division still existed between the users of Liberty Hub and the mod team, and the users perceived Ada as an ally of the mod team and of myself (because I was cooperating with everything Ada told me and getting along well with the LH mods), Ada panicked. The fact that I was getting along with everyone and making compromises was causing the conspiracy theorists to target Ada. So Ada manufactured a drama between her and myself to make it clear that she did not approve of me, even if I was agreeing to do everything she told me. The unity, compromise, and reconciliation was a bad look for Ada in the eyes of the tinfoil hat people. Ada chose to regain the tinfoil hats' favour by inventing a fake disagreement between herself and me. That's the reason /c/soulism was removed, despite hosting zero offensive content and never even having one of its posts or comments reported by anyone. Ada needed to conjure up a fight from nowhere to look good to the conspiracy people.

This unfolded on "United States | News & Politics@midwest.social". Owner 'seahorse' showing the kind of person they are.

This is not how you run a server.

Edit: link to comment:

https://midwest.social/comment/11535311