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I'm not talking about just getting a picture. And you think Republicans will resign because....why? Because we asked them to? Why would they? This is all exactly what they want.

I'm 39 years old, so try again.

And how will that accomplish more than his trip to El Salvador did?

There is no chance in hell that all 300+ Republican Congress people are in on this grift.

This is a rather naive understanding of American politics. Yes, they're all in on it. Stopping hoping for the nice Republicans. They don't exist. They're all fascists.

Your suggestion is to keep trying to appeal to the better nature of Republicans. That's exactly what the Democrats have been doing for the past decade. Hell, it's what they've been doing since 2009. It doesn't work. They don't have a better nature. They want the fascism.

There is NOTHING Democrats can do in Congress. Trying to protest to Republican politicians directly isn't going to get them to change their minds. Van Hollen did more in a single trip to El Salvador to resist the fascists than anyone has done in Congress in 10+ years.

What is your suggestion? Van Hollen got them to crack just by holding a press conference. I'm suggesting they continue this line of attack, but to a greater magnitude.

Get a list of everyone that's been sent down there and get every Democrat who represents all 300+ of them in Congress, every single Democratic Representative and Senator from their states/districts. All of them go down and insist on seeing all of their constituents. Do what Van Hollen did, but on a larger scale.

What's your suggestion? Stay at home and try the same thing they've been doing for the past decade?

Anything but writing or passing legislation am I right!

How do you propose a party that doesn't control any branches of government pass legislation? And what do you think that would accomplish when the regime has already shown they're willing to ignore the law and courts whenever they want?

You want them to just sit in their offices and do the exact same thing they've been doing for the past decade? That's how we got here.

Yet 1 single Senator taking a trip down to El Salvador was enough to scare the Salvadoran government to let someone out of CECOT for the first time ever, even just temporarily to meet with Van Hollen. And you call this just a photo op? Just 1 guy taking a flight and hosting a press conference was enough to scare them into cracking. And you're saying he should have stayed home to write legislation that'd never even get a vote, let alone get passed into law?

You are a deeply unserious person.

Just 1 single Senator was enough to scare them into backtracking on their previous denial and grant a face-to-face meeting with Abrego Garcia. He's been locked back up now, but, as far as I'm aware, this was the first time anyone locked up in CECOT has ever been let out even on a short-term basis to meet with someone outside the concentration camp.

And that's what just 1 Senator was able to accomplish. The bad PR of denying him was enough to scare them into it. So my question is, what could 40 manage to accomplish?

Peaceful demonstrations have ALWAYS played a part in every successful social movement. They shouldn't be the ONLY thing people are doing. They should be paired with more radical strategic actions. But solely relying on violence is also a losing strategy. We should embrace a diversity of tactics, not shout down people who are out there trying to do something.

Van Hollen on his own going down there was enough to cajole them into giving him a face-to-face meeting with Abrego Garcia. Two days ago half the people on the internet were convinced Abrego Garcia was already dead, but just 1 Senator was able to disprove that. The government of El Salvador was so afraid of the optics of denying just a single Senator that they backed down from their initial refusal and completely capitulated.

And you think it's fantasy that a larger number could accomplish more? You are clearly not paying the slightest bit of attention.

The Republicans control the Senate and they want this to happen. There are not 60 Senators, let alone a majority, who are opposed to sending people to concentration camps.

Playing by the normal rules of politics is how we got here. Staying in their offices and just voting in the Senate is what they've been doing for the past decade to oppose Trump, and the fascists have only gotten stronger. What the fuck do you think that's going to accomplish?

Van Hollen on his own went down there and was able to cajole them into giving him a face-to-face meeting with Abrego Garcia. They were so afraid of the optics of just a single Senator getting denied an face-to-face meeting that they went back on their previous denial and granted it. I'd love to see what a whole crowd could accomplish.

I don't think you have a very strong grasp on international politics.

Looks like I was right. He's still alive.