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Van Hollen and Booker showing how representatives in government should be working for their constituents. I hope their aim is to be as annoying as possible until something good comes of it, but I worry Bukele will just arrest them and further erode the numbers we have in Congress.

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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 166 points 1 week ago (2 children)

All of them were wrongly deported.

[–] morphballganon@lemmynsfw.com 90 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Trafficked*

Deportation, by definition, includes due process

[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This isn't deportation, it's internment

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

It is definitely kidnapping. But it's more than that. It's human trafficking and genocide.

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[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Correct, although I imagine they don't want to risk the optics of coming to the rescue of everyone only to find out after a court case that at least one of those people were actually guilty, even though you'd have saved hundreds from wrongful imprisonment and stood up for the constitution.

Voters are just too dumb, I guess.

[–] vvilld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think 14 (ish) of them were actually charged with a crime, although none of them had a trial, let alone were found guilty and sentenced. And even if they were found guilty of something, I'm pretty sure locking someone up indefinitely in a foreign torture prison/slave labor camp qualifies for the 8th Amendment's prohibition on "cruel and unusual punishment."

There is no legal or moral justification for sending even the most hardened convicted criminal there.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, like I said it's mostly optics because a reasonable person should know this isn't ok in general, but the common voter isn't reasonable. At least that's how I interpret it. Thanks for bringing up the specific number, too.

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[–] vvilld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 62 points 1 week ago (19 children)

They need to stop this 1 at a time thing. Get like 40 members of Congress, Senators and Representatives. Show up at CECOT with cameras live streaming and demand to be admitted. When they refuse, force your way in.

I don't believe anyone in El Salvador, including Bukele and the goons staffing the prison, want to have a live stream of them assaulting/arresting a bunch of US members of Congress. And if they do, maybe that'll help wake some Republican voters up to the fascism.

[–] Washedupcynic@lemm.ee 55 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The Rs would celebrate the Ds getting detained in El Salvadore. Everyone going together would be risky as F. If they all get detained, there are no Ds to push back against this shit.

[–] vvilld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Uh.... how exactly are any of them pushing back on anything right now?

[–] valkyrieangela@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Excellent argument. We have no constituents to begin with. Time to increase protests.

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[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (27 children)
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[–] floppybutton@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

The cynic in me knows that since it would be only D's going down there, the fascists would use their absence to cram some shit through. The smart play would be to send only congresspeople and keep the senators here to make sure that nothing Mike LovesJohnson slides up can pass filibuster and get to the Diet Coke Desk.

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[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Honestly, I'm done trying to work with Republicans.

[–] vvilld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh, I don't think a single Republican would join in on this, and I wouldn't want those fascists to take part anyways.

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (4 children)

They are too busy whining that they are scared of the monster they created.

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[–] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I have a feeling this will be the first politician to be arrested.

[–] aramova@infosec.pub 22 points 1 week ago

*By El Salvador and put into an El Salvador prison, for trying to visit a political prisoner.

Many have been arrested in the US and abroad over the years for various reasons.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Why would you think that? Just because he's not a white m-ohhhhh right.

Yeah, no, you're probably right. But they're going to fuck up enough at some point. Hopefully we'll be here to make them pay for it, and I like Booker. (yeah yeah miss me with the 'he voted for Israel' links, I got it, thanks.)

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[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Chuck Schumer and the DNC must be FURIOUS! This TOTALLY RUINS their ENTIRE Plan of ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! These Representatives NEED to stick to the DNC tactic of LETTING Americans get Deported so they can WIN the Midterms!

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (6 children)
[–] MyNameIsIgglePiggle@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We can get satellite imagery that has a resolution of 30cm (1 foot? Fucked if I know) I put in a request to get some of the site but they want $500 because I need to buy 25sq km of imagery. So I'm still looking for another vendor

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 7 points 1 week ago

You probably should ask the Covert Cabal channel on Youtube about this. They specialize in counting Russian armored assets - how many are still in storage, the rate tanks vanish, and so forth. They ought to know specialists and how to get the most cost-effective footage.

I wouldn't be surprised if CC someday covers concentration camps, seeing as how the Trump Regime is an Russian organ.

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[–] statelessai@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

He obviously needs to bring armed forces with him and extract the guy and watch El Salvador blink in 1 second

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[–] Gointhefridge@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Assuming this guy is still alive at this point.

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[–] pinheadednightmare@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Honestly, what is he gonna be able to do?

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Try to do the right thing. That's something.

[–] pinheadednightmare@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] LemmyPlay@lemmings.world 5 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Imagine 3 more senators do this, would that change things in your eyes? 5? 10? Etc. Even if unsuccessful it puts the pressure on those involved, making them look incompetent whether they ignore it or bend over backwards to justify it. It's a smart way deal with unethical actors.

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[–] MunkysUnkEnz0@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago
[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

The bottom line is that man will never be safe in this country again. This fascist regime has made sure of that. He will have a massive target on his back if he ever returns.

American fascism is here.

[–] softcat@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

He'll get told no and then leave.

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[–] AngrySquirrel@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago

The Legislative and Judicial branches need their own armed forces in order to help provide a real counter to unconstitutional executive overreach.

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

This is giving Jonestown

[–] Kcap@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He's definitely gonna run for president again and is trying to position himself as relevant. He'll never win.

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