outhouseperilous

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[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

not sure there is a point deciding terms

K, bye.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

In that circumstance, a periodic board game day might be better.

Its social, but much more relevant, and gets new ideas into the team, or gives them ways to try shit out together.

Plus, professional game designers are the one group of people some if the denser and more experimental board games would be a team building rather than team sundering exercise for.

Im the one arguing they are pedophiles.

Because i have seen them be pedophiles at me, back when that was possible. Im fine (or, at least mostly avoided that hazard), but have literally seen it happen!

And i was a pretty slippery kid, so odds are they got more than a few others. Im pretty sure i met some of them; the victims, but im not going to discuss that.

What's more pertinent: not one of them was ever prosecuted. So you wouldn't see it.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (8 children)

could be defined as intelligent

Okay but what are some useful definitions for us to use here? I could argue a pencil is intelligent if i can play with terms enough.

Id like to have a couple, because it's such a broad topic. Give them different names.

opinions

The capacity to be wrong is not what matters; garbage in garbage out. Lets focus on why it's wrong, how it gets there.

llm models or chatbots

Arent all modern chatbots based on llm's?

subjective conscious

Conscious. Define. Seems like it's gonna come up a lot and its a very slippery word, repurposed from an entirely different context.

common sense is information held uncritically

Okay! I can work with that.

language is fluid and messy

Yeah, but in common use it matters. Not necessarily that they stick to original uses, but the political implications and etymology of new uses should be scrutinized, because it does shape thought, especially for NT's.

But i recognize that it's messy. that's why we're defining terms.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Moat aren't. It's basically approved in our society.

I've very much enjoyed the company of a person who turned out to be a pedophile before, and im much too old for them to be of particular danger to me anymore.

I wouldnt write them off as a friend for that, just like i wouldnt write them off for being a serial killer, or someone who wears socks with sandals.

The wealthy, however; i absolutely would.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Eliza with an api call is intelligence, then?

opinions

Llm's cannot do that. Tell me your basic understanding of how the technology works.

common sense

What do you mean when we say this? Lets define terms here.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I have literal first hand experiences of the ultra wealthy hitting on me when i was a literal fucking child. Some of them were subtler, and im pretty confident, and its in the realm of vibes, but a couple definitely were not fucking subtle about it.

The wealthy are all pedophiles. What evidence do you have to the contrary?

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

computer=rational

Traditional code, yes. For some definitions of rational. This is the way to make it not be that.

throwing around a lot if assumptions

No, i understand things. I know the idea is foreign to you, but i do have some relevant domain knowledge. I have actually looked at the underlying technology, i have a basic understanding of math and computer science and philosophy of mind, and any of the three, separately, expose this as bullshit.

you can learn a lot from "ai"!

You can learn a lot from the bible, reading tea leaves, or listening to your friend's schizophrenic uncle when he's off his meds and into your friend's mushrooms, too.

Edit: i would genuinely love to argue philosophy and 'what is intelligence', but none of the advocates of this technology are smart enough to even try to understand what that is, much less articulate and argue the concept.

It's all just 'nuh uh! It's totally my friend! You haters just dont understand!' Like a sicker dumber version of the arguments i had about nft's five years ago. Fuck im sick of being earnest. I get more coherent responses and feel less like im shouting into the void when i just think of the dumbest shit i can possibly say and post that.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (12 children)

There is no reasonable definition of intelligence that this technology has.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Sorry, did you both try to discredit me as a broken victim and tell me im wrong in the same post?

Why do you care so much about the reputations of the ultra wealthy? They're not gonna fuck you, bro; you're too old for them.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)

There is no good data source. If you run by prosecutions, laws do not apply to the wealthy.

I've met a lot of rich assholes, and all if them acted like pedos. More than one tried to groom me.

More than not acted like pedophiles.

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