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Does this means we achievied a point of agreement or further discord?

You should ask more questions and assume less.

What motivated my vote for decriminalizing abortion in my country was ending the loss of lives and ending the unreasonable and unjustifiable suffering and imprisionment of the women that had to undergo highly dangerous means and procedures to get one. Many women lost their lives and their chance to have children, when they chose to.

This forced law to be drawn and put in place to make sure any woman could get acess to free, informed and safe ways to end an unwanted pregnancy and would have pre and post interruption of pregnancy follow up, to ensure the woman's physical and mental health and access to proper means of contraception. This also includes verifying if the woman is not subject to abuse and does not abuse abortion.

Abortion was made safe and a last resort, as it should.

I am in favour of medically assisted death, as I am aware that many individuals suffer horrors until reaching their end, be it phisically, mentally, both or in any other way I am unaware of. What I am against is about banalizing euthanasia. It must be a last resort, when nothing can be done to aliviate or mitigate suffering or no cure or solution is available.

People should be allowed to live the best life they can. It is a basic human right. Resorting to terminate life because a person is tired or was defrauded of any expectation is plain basic stupidity. It's an easy way for an already crooked system to justify not changing.

I wish and want people to get help, be supported, receive the best care humanly possible to give to whatever may be their ailment and, if truly no other option is available, then, make their end as peaceful and painless as possible, with no consequences for healthcare personel, family or friends.

How about that for an anwer, you sanctimonious buffoon?

And I wish I could trip on my ego; meant I had one to begin with, instead of being a paper bag full of self doubt 90% of my time.

On what count?

It seems I hold wrong views, so please be so kind in enlightening me on that.

I like your point of view but that's an ever dwindling information base. Most catholics don't go to confession and a good portion of humans on this rock isn't one.

But besides that, spot on.

I voted in favor of the end of criminalization of abortion in my country; it was the first vote I ever cast and am proud of it.

Not that you asked or even deserve a polite answer after that tirade but I actually saw my mother waste away, for years, as a cancer ate her bit by bit. I don't wish suffering of any kind to any one, so fuck you and your presuppositions.

And if this answer grants me a ban, I will wear it proudly.

It's a shame and a disgrace we, as a species, came to the point we are today but if we are to blame anyone - here's my advice - let's start by getting our asses from the couch, walk to the nearest mirror and curse at the face staring back at us.

I'm fed up with people that by default take the position that everything is lost and there is no hope. So, again, fuck you and fuck off with that mindset.

Be politically active, stand up for your rights, unionize, talk to other people, meet like minded people, create some change, even if small. Actually do something.

Stop judging for a first.

Did I engage you in bad faith? Refused to answer your questions? I just hold different views from you and will fight to keep them, if necessary at the my own life's risk.

I'll repeat it again: I do not want the life of anyone, by default, viewed as discardable or disposable. That is an horrendous way to approach life.

I just suggested a more neutral expression, for future use. That expression doesn't have an equivalent in my language but I understood your words. Carrying around bagage of that sort just weighs us down; I went through a similar situation in my life and it was not pleasant.

And even children, if faced with health conditions with no hope or chance of improvement or cure.

I'm not against that. Your life, you should - you are - the only one with a word on how to dispose of it.

But to contemplate death because you see no other option for a life worth living, because society, family, friends, whatever failed you, is not the purpose of euthanasia.

Life is worth living.

How about a good enough cook? Because knowing how to cook without trashing the kitchen in process is a feat worthy of respect. Took me a few years to achieve.

That we failed people? I just did.

To accept people want to cease to exist? No. Understand it, respect it, tolerate it if to mitigate unreasonable suffering, yes.

Accept it just because, no. Life is not cheap, discardable or disposeable. So, no.

Yes, please. Let's do that.

That's a pretty metal description of what transitioning is. Bang on.

Catholics and all christians by extension are also bound to do good and protect those who can't defend themselves.

I'm going to risk that denouncing and delivering to secular authoroties those who practice one of the most heinous acts we can think of falls under that responsibility.

Or because the church has lost its power to deliver "justice" of their accord (read inquisition and the follow up torture and mutilation) it has also lost the will to persecute evil deeds?