Tinidril

It's not about punishment. If time off is optional than it's a near guarantee that workers will be punished in some way for taking it. At a minimum bosses should have to pay out for unused time off, even though that that will certainly lead to some bosses penalizing those workers.

You sound like someone with no workforce experience whatsoever.

I wouldn't say that it is morally obligatory or a good idea in practice.

Then you are just another one of the millions that chose to let evil happen. With all due respect, fuck off.

Traditional Catholics. It's actually several different groups of Catholics that have ported many of the social positions of evangelicals into Catholicism.

Don't forget the trad-caths. What evangelicals are to protestantism, trad-caths are to catholicism.

Let's not forget that prior to Jesus any punishments were over when you died. Permanent Hell was a new testament thing.

Whatever he didn't got fucked by Clinton.

Weitd. I'm traveling so it was probably network issues.

Everyone I'm close to knows about the prison industrial complex because we talk to each other.

Maybe we live in different neighborhoods. Most of my neighbors are fine with locking "those people" up, and don't much care what happens to them beyond that.

"approach the world with intent to confirm this bias"

How do you account for the vast majority of eligible voters either not showing up or voting for Trump? That's about as unbiased a measure as I can think of.

Not being part of the problem takes work,

So we're on the same page there.

wisdom is in knowing people are highly situational, neither inherently good or bad

If it takes work to not be part of the problem than aren't people inherently "bad" until they do the work? I didn't introduce that dialectic to this conversation. Of course throwing everyone into two buckets is inherently going to miss a lot of depth.

often entirely unequipped for the world we've created or the heights we've grasped.

I'm not sure it was ever any different.

In 2024 35% of eligible voters didn't vote and 32% voted for Trump. That's not a perfect measure, but it's about as much of a case as can be made. I'm also far less inclined to move any of those 67% over to the "good" side than to move any of the 32% that voted for Harris to the bad side.