Plesiohedron

joined 6 days ago
[–] Plesiohedron@lemmy.cafe 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I'll do my own pandering thank you. With a collection of clear virtue signals, a rigorous purity filter and a crew of fanatical moderators.

[–] Plesiohedron@lemmy.cafe 2 points 3 days ago

If you saved yourself you would save us all.

[–] Plesiohedron@lemmy.cafe 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

It could be inherently flawed. We look at a picture or a symbol and pretend it's real. That's insane. I mean, I know that's kinda how it works, but still. Insane.

Or maybe it's imprecise to call it a flaw. Maybe call it a trap, to be careful of. But nobody's careful. (So that's maybe an "out of control" situation)

(I know I'm not. I mean case in point. I'm watching this movie "don't look up" right now and I'm getting all teary-eyed and stuff. It's a fucking movie. An illusion of flickering images and bullshit. I know with great certainty that it's just a fantasy but I'm still having this reaction. So that's insane)

[–] Plesiohedron@lemmy.cafe 3 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Is it inherently bad? Out of control? Something else?

[–] Plesiohedron@lemmy.cafe 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

We could order understanding by quality.

First there is perception. That's the closest. Then there is thought about that. Then there is the secondhand form of that, gotten from a friend. Then gotten from a mere associate. Then a stranger. Thirdhand and fourthhand. And so on.

Close to far. That close kind you don't even have to think or talk about it.

Perceptions like rightness, beauty, gut make a good guide. Art and invention are proof of that. Call it a good source of truth.

Not too good for building objective consensuses tho.

[–] Plesiohedron@lemmy.cafe 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (6 children)

Hypothetically, one could step away from the whole internet/media/information system. Stick with firsthand experience and the testimony of trusted friends.

To what degree would that include "science"?

What would that look like. Amish?

[–] Plesiohedron@lemmy.cafe -2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

"informed"

Lol

But I kid. Your logic fails to escape the box I propose, I think. I think that only direct observation achieves good reliability. That and maybe conversation with personal friends.

Beyond that, big nope. It's the epistemological equivalent of drinking out of lead cups except the damage is quicker.

[–] Plesiohedron@lemmy.cafe -3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Everybody say it all together now..

I'm an intelligent, autonomous, free-thinking individual!

[–] Plesiohedron@lemmy.cafe 3 points 5 days ago

Carpenter coder here. I like saving my code powers for my own beloved projects.

[–] Plesiohedron@lemmy.cafe 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

My thoughts as well.

It makes me wonder about my own fears. How many of them were put there by propaganda?

[–] Plesiohedron@lemmy.cafe 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Instead of demanding that the peers get vaccinated they could just stay away from the peers.

[–] Plesiohedron@lemmy.cafe 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It was a wrong turn anyway, so I edited it. Sorry. I hoped to catch it before you replied.

But my point was the arrogance and disrespect. I find it shocking. The actual form of the insult was secondary.

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