OpenStars

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[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago

Most of the world is turning to fascism (albeit not equally), so you may want to find another way to cope.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 19 points 1 day ago

It happened so fast though! (Almost like their only concern was ever profits)

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

At least you won't be bored, with all the surprises and entertainment they offer! 😉🙄🐸🙃

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

But within a series who gets credit for the kill - do they all share equally (socialism), or only the one most proximal to the victim (merit, I dunno?), or perhaps capitalism is at play so the richest one in the set gets all the credit for all the kills?

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I can think of worse sounds to come from the bathroom...

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They don't call it Taco Smell for no reason!? 🤣

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

There is such a thing for Lemmy, and Lemmy.ml has a "good reputation" listed on it.

See it here: https://gui.fediseer.com/instances/detail/lemmy.ml, noting the 15 "endorsements" (think upvotes) and only 2 "censures" (think downvotes), with another 2 "hesitations". Fwiw, PieFed.social has 6 endorsements (all by Lemmy instances iirc) and 0 censures and 0 hesitations. lemmy.dbzer0.com has 49 endorsements, 136 censures, and 2 more hesitations.

So people definitely put censures and hesitations for some instances... just not lemmy.ml. Possibly the system admins are too afraid of being known by the very developers of the code that they are running on their machines to call it out? (I don't have to remind you of all people that system admins in most countries cannot be anonymous - unlike the rest of us, most people in that situation have to register with their country to be responsible for the content shown, e.g. CSAM). Mainly around lemmy.ml there is simply... silence, by the vast majority of the Threadiverse.

Which matches every other policy surrounding Lemmy.ml around the Threadiverse: chiefly silence (at the "official" levels, e.g. sidebar text on an instance or in official documentation), leaving new people to have to constantly keep discovering what is going on regarding it, mainly on their own.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago

If you want an abortion, but your neighbor is willing to fully, literally, and actually kill you for attempting to get one, then how do you get along? Indeed...

The above example is auth-right, while tankies are auth-left. The common denominator is the auth part. You either give in and do whatever the other side wants, or... you do not do that.

Platforming the auth-left seems similar to trying to get people to join Reddit. Either way you are helping someone else feed forward their agenda, which will ultimately arrive at a bad ending.

I do note that PieFed is building an entirely new future, neither platforming tankies nor seeking profits to the exclusion of all else. I am putting my hopes into it.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Sorry for being confusing, but you are correct, tankies are not literal Nazis - I was referring to the Paradox of Tolerance whereby, as some may consider paradoxically, when we attempt to tolerate everyone then in reality we will become less free than if we would exclude those who would act to take freedom away from others (this logical principle is often called by the "Nazi bar" effect, where you yourself may not be an actual "Nazi", or in our case a tankie, and yet by virtue of association we are seen as such by Redditors who might otherwise flock here and contribute much more content than we currently have here).

Edit: here is an interesting comparison to ponder about. In this post (trigger warning: on Reddit) https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/1putgx5/lemmy_release_v01915_and_testing_for_10/ from yesterday, it mentions a Lemmy updated version, and do you see where the linked URL leads? Directly to lemmy.ml. Contributions to advance the Lemmy source code are also subverted into use to administer the Lemmy.ml instance, the only way to avoid that happening being to donate specifically to Nutomic directly. Lemmy code == Lemmy.ml, by the very devs of the platform. In contrast, here is another post https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/1pu7vkf/piefed_14_is_released_emote_reactions_ai_content/ from the day before that, and its primary link is to codeberg for the actual software, and only secondarily are links provided for more info on PieFed.social. It is possible to have a federated threaded-based conversational platform that is not primarily run and at least somewhat controlled by tankies. And yet even PieFed.social does not defederate from Lemmy.ml.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago

I mean, technically we are all traveling in time right now... forward, at a constant velocity (or at least it appears that way to us, locally in this part of our spacetime continuum).

These shoes just seemed to have a bit of a detour, before they finally arrived at this, their new destination:-).

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 6 points 2 days ago

You say that so confidently that I will just go ahead and choose to believe you...

 
 
 

At least, it makes as much sense as anything else right about now...

 

I did not make this - I just saw it and thought it was glorious 🤣

Also O'Brien's reaction seems priceless as well!:-P

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(except nowhere near the same level of quality - you people are amazing 🤩)

 

Mbin in the last six months doubled their number of comments being sent out across the wider Fediverse. PieFed is making strides forward all the time. Sublinks hasn't seemed to keep up, but Lemmy.World has floated the idea of potentially moving to it at some point.

So we are not all just "Lemmy" anymore. Though "Fediverse" seems far too broad a term, when it can include such diverse aspects as PixelFed (like Instagram) as well as Mbin or Xhitter as well as Lemmy or PieFed or Sublinks - see e.g. A lot of good stuff is happening in the fediverses!

So people have taken to calling us the "Threadiverse". Tbf that name predated Mark Zuckerberg's "Threads", but still that name now seems tainted by it? Though otherwise accurate & precisely descriptive as it emphasizes how people talk in topic-based conversations, rather than the user-focused approach of Mastodon and Xhitter.

So what I do (when I don't say that we are on the Fediverse) is simply list out all the possibilities - Lemmy, Mbin, PieFed, and soon Sublinks - though that gets cumbersome. Or maybe there's a new term that we could use? @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com mentioned:

most people think of microblogging when they hear "Fediverse". Maybe "Nestedverse" or "Forumverse"?

Or I suppose we could say "Threadiverse except don't worry we specifically exclude Threads", whenever we talk about ourselves, especially to mainstream people (who don't use Arch btw!:-P) e.g. to people on Reddit. (oh who am I kidding, ofc I mean @blaze@feddit.org, who regularly tries to attract new users to here and deserves some kind of award like "Ambassador of Lemmy" - oh and there we go again, just what the heck are we!?:-P)

Also, it is up to each instance whether they want to specifically exclude threads.net or not - and one could in theory not do that, so that whenever threads.net decides to turn on its federation it would absolutely flood that instance with content, drowning out the source from Lemmy (or WHATEVER we are!:-D).

So it can all get so complicated - what would help simplify it? Just call it "Lemmy" and leave it at that? Unless Lemmy.World moves to Sublinks, that is where >80% of the userbase lies and therefore much of the content is coming from atm. Or "Fediverse" even if that is too broad? Or "Threadiverse" even though that's a loaded word now? Or something new? (ngl, I kinda REALLY like "Forumverse")

People will call it whatever they want ofc - I intended this to be a silly & fun question to provoke us into thinking about it:-). Especially since I'm posting to Lemmy from PieFed - which is fucking beautiful that none of those details actually matters and we all can just share the content and enjoy it, together!:-D

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