JimmyMcGill

I think you mean -1180s

Fuuuuck this is depressing

No shit

First I’m not from the US

Second, yes ofc it’s politics. Nobody is disagreeing on that.

Third even in Europe this is becoming a problem even if the inequality gap doesn’t grow as fast

Lots of left politicians from my country there as well (and it’s quite far from Hungary)

Yes new jobs will be created but more and more wealth is concentrated at the top

It’s not the apocalypse but it’s also not not bad in many ways.

Technological progress should only be a good thing but in a capitalist society like ours it has a lot of downsides too (for the majority of the population ofc)

I’m a member of a political party of the country I was born and can vote in, so I’m not like that

I agree with all of this but take into account that lots of people here don’t even live in the US (like me). And we get fucked by democrats being shit at winning elections too

Supposedly

But things need to become real bad

Nobody is arguing that technology won’t progress. Even Marx defends that as a precondition for socialism/communism.

The question is the following. Tomorrow a ground breaking technology is developed that makes literally everyone twice as productive. (Please let’s ignore the technical aspect of this. I’m simplifying for the sake of the argument, but this is happening at some paces everywhere).

Now you have 3 options:

1. Everyone can just work half the time for the same productivity. I.e. the economy can sustain itself with people just working less (which is a MAJOR quality of life increase).
2. Everyone works the same amount of time but their salaries double.
3. Everyone works the same amount of time. Their salaries increase a small %, perhaps keeping up with inflation, perhaps a tiny bit more than that, sometimes even not keeping up with inflation. The added productivity results in increased wealth aggregation at the top.

Number 1 is what people are talking about in this thread.

Number 2 won’t happen because salaries aren’t actually tied to productivity. Productivity just sets a higher limit on salary that in any case is never reached. The salaries are actually determined by competition between workers.

Number 3. Has been happening since the seventies and will continue to happen.

Yea but also tools

We don’t have to stop for water, we can bring some

Same for food

Our preys didn’t have such luck

Very late here but thank you for the post