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[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 37 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

As a lifelong resident of the United States, TIL there are non-violent states. Apparently. Somewhere.

[–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 18 points 10 hours ago

It’s a spectrum of intensity like sweet or sour

Except instead you sort the states by gun homicides and domestic violence rates

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 20 points 8 hours ago

People who migrate from states with a strong “culture of honor” bring with them a don’t-back-down defensiveness learned in their home communities, and that makes them more likely to die by violence even in historically safe states [...] The most violent U.S. regions — Appalachia, the Deep South and the old frontier states — are still deeply marked by a Wild West, stand-your-ground ethos,

[–] kungen@feddit.nu 16 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The study doesn't seem to do any calculations regarding socioeconomic statuses? I doubt a wealthy highly-educated man from Kentucky would have similar "following violence" if he moved to Wisconsin or whatever the examples were... or someone moving for a long-term job offer... but rather people from worse socioeconomic backgrounds moving to a bigger city without many promises and then getting caught up in more shit.

It's the same result regardless, but it doesn't feel like it's only because of some macho-culture thing.

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

While I agree with you to some extent, I would also argue that someone who grows up in a culture where many disputes are "solved" with violence, or where a noticable percentage of people don't have the emotional maturity to handle their anger without physical expression, is also likely to struggle with those issues when they move away from that culture. Socioeconomic class is not a replacement for emotional maturity, it simply gives one some more leeway before some types of pressure apply - and they're often replaced with other types of pressure.

[–] vrek@programming.dev 6 points 7 hours ago

You are sorta right but missing the idea of inheritance. A man in Kentucky with enough resources to move probably didn't live in a trailer park or likely didn't go to public school. He was raised with a tutor and in "that house" in the town.

Moving doesn't make you a better person but if you have the means your child is not growing up in that culture, maybe Kentucky but not in a trailer...

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

So you're saying Americans are the problem?

[–] homoludens@feddit.org 14 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

No, growing up in a violent environment is the (or rather a) problem.

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

So you're saying America is the problem?

[–] Nanook@lemmy.zip 7 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Be careful speaking truth, if these kids could read, you might be violently downvoted by brave and free Muricans.

And to answer your question. Always has been.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world -1 points 7 hours ago

Always??? Nah. We’re just the latest incarnation of “the absolute worst motherfuckers always have the biggest sticks.”

But now? Yes. We are definitely the problem.

Everyone else please get your sticks ready. If we fail to stop this shit internally (and it ain’t looking good) you’re gonna need them.

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

Right now, you’re the problem.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world -2 points 8 hours ago

If you want to ignore all nuance and never actually find a solution to said problem... sure!

In many cases...yes, and it's embarrassing

[–] standarduser@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 6 hours ago

This sounds like a topic that can be very easily taken and smacked with any politically leaning context

[–] aarRJaay@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago

TIL: Violent citizens more from state to state taking the violence with them?