Isn't it fun living through the decline phase of our civilization?
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I never expected USA to self destruct like they are now. It's absolutely insane!
Electing Bush Jr. twice was crazy, but electing Trump twice is insane.
Following the trend of elections for the past few decades, USA is on a path to become a totalitarian country.
The Democrats may win the next presidential election if there is one, but if the trend continues, when the pendulum swings again, that will be the end of democracy for USA.
It was not unexpected. Most big powers in history end like that. The rich always want more and eventually start taking it from everybody else, even if it's detrimental to the future of the nation.
Oh I absolutely expected USA to be surpassed by China at some point. And for USA to gradually lose international dominance.
But the shit USA is making for itself is turbocharging that process by at least a factor 10.
Some might say it doesn't really make much difference because the end result remains the same. But the problem is that this doesn't give the world the same amount of time to adjust. Disruption is generally bad, and disruption of world power is no exception.
Of course the worst disruption is to USA, and that will have a serious negative impact on American business, and if the US dollar loses the position as the world reserve currency, the significance of the American debt will be way more serious.
We always heard that this would be China’s century, and for the most part I assumed “maayybe. We’ll see. It’d take a while for the US to decline.”
Little did I know the US would very quickly shoot both its feet off on its own.
I thought that if China were to become the dominant country it’d be through years and years of steady growth while the US was doing the same. They’d just end up overtaking in the long run — not that the US would actively sabotage itself via bigotry and stupidity and greed.
Complete self own. And everyone in charge is a giant coward. We could start righting the ship today, but all the elected gop (and some dem) officials are greedy cowards.
It feels like the elite are doing one last big haul before they're out of there, looking for new regions to exploit.
It was inevitable and kind of expected.
The US wasn't built on that solid of a foundation. In fact the founding fathers have said explicitly that said foundation - the Constitution itself - should be a living document updated regularly by the people, for the people, to reflect the changes in the world and in the people themselves. It was literally written at one of the most prominent times of change, so of course those who saw said change and were responsible for enacting it, weren't idiots who thought things would never change!
The first cracks appeared in the US a hundred years later with the industrial revolution kicking into high gear and transforming the so far mostly rural, self-sufficient communities into manufacturing giants. That's when factory and mining towns began to boom, and when the US truly began to claim its world power status - without adjusting the laws of course since it benefited the handful few who managed to get their fingers deep into those oh so lucrative pies.
And it's not like there haven't been warning signs of the impending capitalist doomsday. Capitalism was literally built on the back of the industrial revolution (which allowed the means of production to transfer into and concentrate in private hands), and immediately people saw the issue with it - no wonder Marx saw the need to work out a competing socioeconomic system that, if you think about it, was truly in the spirit of the American independence and the US Constitution (aka by the people, for the people).
All that capitalist rush? That allowed a handful of people to become obscenely rich, without the curtails of previous obscenely rich (aka kings, royalty, nobles), allowing them to grab power without any of the responsibility. Kings paid with their heads for their wrong decisions, but in the US, that was deemed excessive, so instead y'all elected people who then got paid off by said obscenely rich to go against the people electing them... and the worst that happens was that the elected official got rich, then got replaced by another who got bought out the same way.
And all that money/power concentrated in such a small number of hands would ALWAYS lead to them wanting more and more until they sucked the host dry like a parasite. There's no symbiosis with capitalists because wealth (resources and man-hours) are finite, unlike their greed. And since the US made it harder and harder to amend the constitution, to make that document truly living and serve the people... The fall thus became inevitable.
Studying the revolutionary war reveals a bunch of rich propagandists using lies and violence to manipulate the people into forming a country for the wealthy by the wealthy.
The first President of the US was well on his way to becoming the first billionaire adjusted for inflation. All the things they said were pretty much lies as no one was ever equal in our classist society and our first major moves were to genocide an entire race of people.
The cracks and rot were present in our founding slaveholding abusive fucking illegitimate "fathers" who sold the people a lie just like our current reps do.
USA is on a path to become a shit-hole country - FTFY.
USA already has widespread poverty, the longest work hours, lacks free healthcare and education, has the lowest life expectancy among economically comparable countries, has a dysfunctional democracy and AFAIK the greatest inequality among rich democracies.
So USA is already a shit-hole country, and among shit hole countries, totalitarian countries are the absolute worst.
If you think people have it bad now, especially below middle class, you just wait and see what it will be like if USA becomes a totalitarian country!
That was a decade ago. With trump and Biden at the helm, we hit that point already. Between trump showing that there is no bottom to the depths that conservatives will sink to and *Biden showing that there's no consequences for openly breaking the law, we are a fucking joke at best.
* Yes, I know congress stopped a lot that. But Biden could have pushed harder against the Republicans or even just not rolled over and go back to business as usual with the weakest of weak sauce attempts at accountability. I mean, Merrick fucking Garland?!?! The failed compromise pick from a decade prior as the head of the investigation?
I hate that the Democrats are the best national response we have to this shit. Local community organization helps, but goddamn if this situation isn't disheartening.
I'm so happy to be in the EU. Good luck over there! BTW we had like 100 collapses and 1000 wars before we got to where we are...
Don't get complacent. The EU countries are toying with the idea of collapsing with us. AfD doesn't seem to be shrinking, and there will be a lot of money and propaganda dumped that way soon.
I hope you're better at resisting it than we were, but seeing as how we're all still on vulnerable social media...
True, idiocy is universal. You can see the roaches crawling out of the rocks already.
Yeah, nothing is written in stone for sure, and I hope our american friends will figure it out, and that we'll motor through all this bullshit.
Once the oligarchs have picked the bones over here, the EU is next. They’re like a virus that must keep consuming.
How can you say this with a straight face? All fascist parties have record numbers, workers rights are being targeted across the board, digital privacy is a thing of the past. We're like barely half a step behind. The oligarchy doesn't care about states or continents. The EU is on the menu just as much as the US
Yes, and us unionists are fighting back. What, do you think we're all just sitting on our arses with our heads up rectums?
If a fascist takes over the Danish government I'm going to riot, and I know which friends to call on to make it happen too.
Civilization? Nah just the collapse of one empire. The rest of the world goes on.
Rather arrogant to believe the US falling means the decline of our entire civilisation.
End of USA will be net positive for human civilization and its not even close
"Civilization" is a big word for a collection of selfish pillagers who barely tolerate each other. It's certainly "fun" for the rest of the world, lol.
Savvy countries will discover there’s a way to mitigate the harm incurred by Trump’s tariffs
They already have. It takes 1.5 to 2 years for trade deals to be negotiated and then put into effect. In the coming years when these deals take effect, and trade is routing itself around the US as much as possible rather than through it, people in the US are going to learn a very difficult economic lesson.
On the plus side, maybe the notion of American Exceptionalism will diminish a bit, which is long overdue.
people in the US are going to learn a very difficult economic lesson.
And they will all blame whichever Dem happens to be in the white house because they all have the memories of goldfish.
Not if said Dem actually does something about it. (Unlikely)
Problem is that, if we elect a Democrat, it will be a fabulously wealthy person with no empathy or understanding of the working class and working poor, so the likelihood that they will do anything about it is minimal. Remember when Obama had the balls to walk into Flint, pretend to drink a glass of water, and tell all of those people whose water had been poisoned that everything was a-okay? That's what I mean. Zero empathy.
More importantly, the last dem expanded on Trump pt I's tarriffs.
Unless the next candidate acknowledges this, why would voters have any faith that candidate won't be another Biden?
Honestly didn't know that. Could you point me to a source where I can read more about it?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93United_States_trade_war
2x Trump's tarriff on solar panels, 3+x on evs, +25% on aluminum, batteries, and more
Thanks for sharing!
As an American, I can't wait for the lessons learned and the death to American Exceptionalism. I look forward to reaping everything we've sowed due to our shitty actions (or complete lack of action).
But also as an American I am bitter and don't believe for a second that the 60-70% of people here that need to learn a lesson, will actually learn a lesson. I no longer believe things will change for the better within my lifetime. It sucks.
I no longer believe things will change for the better within my lifetime.
Funny. That was sort of the subject of a YT video I made today. Basically the whole of my working life has corresponded to the decline of economic liberty for the working class and working poor, so I don't really celebrate New Years. I expect every year to be worse than the one before.
When you are too old to leave the country because you are too invested, not old enough to be dead before it gets really bad. So living through the next 40 years is going to be fucking grueling.
This article is saying other countries should repeal their equivalents to the DMCA's anti-curcumvention, just like Cory Doctorow says, and I agree too. The whole reason those counties passed DMCA-like laws was that we threatened to tariff them if they don't. Well, now we're tariffing them anyway. We're no longer holding up our end of the bargain, and neither should anyone else.
That happened the second capitalists got a chance to move their factories to other countries.
This shit wouldn't be happening if Kamala had won.
America has been on the decline for 20 years at least. The turnip in charge has accelerated the decline via tariffs but we'd just be moving slower towards the drain with Kamala in charge. She wasn't exactly campaigning on large changes to the economy.
Since 1981 the large decline began. Like 80% of bad policies and shitting on the working class in america can be traced back to the 80s.. I wonder what happened then.
Kamala would just have been a party line corporate puppet like Obama 2.0. But undoubtedly 100x better than trump.
Kamala would have defended DMCA and Big Tech to the death. The only difference might have been a little less crypto grifting, but it’s nonsense to suggest there would have been a major difference on the issues this article is actually discussing.
The trends and forces would have been no different, but it was a choice between a collapse of empire versus a soft landing a la UK. They chose collapse.
Will soon begin? My brother in Christ, it's begun at least 20 years ago.
Trump didn't cause it but he sure as hell accelerated its decline.
The US needs savvy voters. Or,, selfish voters who realise they are the farmed turkeys voting for Christmas.
Over the past two decades, the office of the US Trade Representative–which is responsible for developing and coordinating US international trade, commodity, and direct investment policy—has pressured most of the world into adopting these laws, hamstringing foreign startups that might compete with Apple (by providing a jailbreaking kit that installs a third-party app store), or Google (by blocking tracking on Android devices), or Amazon (by converting Kindle and Audible files to formats that work on rival apps), or John Deere (by disabling the systems that block third-party repairs), or the Big Three automakers (by decoding the encrypted error messages mechanics need to service our cars). The rents that these digital locks help American companies extract run to hundreds of billions of dollars every single year.
The world’s governments agreed to protect this racket in exchange for tariff-free access to American markets. Now that the US has reneged on its side of the bargain, these laws serve no useful purpose.
In 2026, many countries will respond to tariffs like they were still in the 19th century. But a few countries will have the vision, the boldness, and the political smarts to kick Donald Trump right in the dongle. The country that gets there first will enjoy the same relationship to, say, third-party app stores for games consoles, that Finland enjoyed in relation to mobile phones during the Nokia decade.
Hear, hear!