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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 75 points 13 hours ago (5 children)

Savvy countries will discover there’s a way to mitigate the harm incurred by Trump’s tariffs

They already have. It takes 1.5 to 2 years for trade deals to be negotiated and then put into effect. In the coming years when these deals take effect, and trade is routing itself around the US as much as possible rather than through it, people in the US are going to learn a very difficult economic lesson.

On the plus side, maybe the notion of American Exceptionalism will diminish a bit, which is long overdue.

[–] teft@piefed.social 35 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

people in the US are going to learn a very difficult economic lesson.

And they will all blame whichever Dem happens to be in the white house because they all have the memories of goldfish.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 25 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Not if said Dem actually does something about it. (Unlikely)

Problem is that, if we elect a Democrat, it will be a fabulously wealthy person with no empathy or understanding of the working class and working poor, so the likelihood that they will do anything about it is minimal. Remember when Obama had the balls to walk into Flint, pretend to drink a glass of water, and tell all of those people whose water had been poisoned that everything was a-okay? That's what I mean. Zero empathy.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 16 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

More importantly, the last dem expanded on Trump pt I's tarriffs.

Unless the next candidate acknowledges this, why would voters have any faith that candidate won't be another Biden?

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly didn't know that. Could you point me to a source where I can read more about it?

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 17 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93United_States_trade_war

2x Trump's tarriff on solar panels, 3+x on evs, +25% on aluminum, batteries, and more

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

Thanks for sharing!

[–] WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Left and right will all blame everyone but themselves. Anything to not put in their own work or take current matters at hand.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

Left and right will all blame everyone but themselves. Anything to not put in their own work or take current matters at hand.

both sides are the same lol.

get fucked. one tried to give us single payer insurance, you know, like a real country. the other gave us a child molester rapist con man and then let his cult followers smear shit in the capitol.

both sides are the same goddamn it's so fucking ridiculous get fucked with a jackhammer

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

As an American, I can't wait for the lessons learned and the death to American Exceptionalism. I look forward to reaping everything we've sowed due to our shitty actions (or complete lack of action).

But also as an American I am bitter and don't believe for a second that the 60-70% of people here that need to learn a lesson, will actually learn a lesson. I no longer believe things will change for the better within my lifetime. It sucks.

[–] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago

When you are too old to leave the country because you are too invested, not old enough to be dead before it gets really bad. So living through the next 40 years is going to be fucking grueling.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 9 points 6 hours ago

I no longer believe things will change for the better within my lifetime.

Funny. That was sort of the subject of a YT video I made today. Basically the whole of my working life has corresponded to the decline of economic liberty for the working class and working poor, so I don't really celebrate New Years. I expect every year to be worse than the one before.

[–] Sine_Fine_Belli@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

In my honest opinion, American exceptionalism should be dead and buried 6 feet under. And American patriotism and the American Dream should be revisited and revised and reformed

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 hours ago

In my honest opinion, American exceptionalism should be dead and buried

Should be, but it's such a deeply ingrained part of their national self image that it'll take a few generations of consistent effort to make it fade away.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 3 points 3 hours ago

On the plus side, maybe the notion of American Exceptionalism will diminish a bit, which is long overdue.

Hope is a powerful thing, and I fervently hope so!

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

On the plus side, maybe the notion of American Exceptionalism will diminish a bit, which is long overdue.

And I have a pet conspiracy theory that this is intentional. American elites are secretly tired of exceptionalist sh*t and think it's hurting them too. And thus have come up with a solution to return sobriety.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 6 hours ago

Trump using tariffs to balance trade of goods is out in the open. That should end exceptionalism. But they ignore services so it's not entirely even.