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The latest release of Jeffrey Epstein documents includes an FBI report about a caller's claim of a suspicious death in Kiefer, Oklahoma, in January 2000.

The caller said a woman was found with her head "blown off" in the small town in northeast Oklahoma days after reporting to police she had been raped by Epstein and Donald Trump. The caller described the death as a murder.

The FBI report was in the nearly 30,000 new documents released by the U.S. Justice Department on Dec. 23.

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 175 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

Oh, it's a different murder from the one Trump was implicated in a few days ago. That one was a baby born to a 13 year old rape victim and thrown into a lake. This one is a rape victim herself who reported him. You know you've picked a good President when he has too many alleged rapes and murders to keep track of.

[–] RaoulDuke85@piefed.social 44 points 9 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Candice_the_elephant@lemmy.world 29 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 14 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Plus that civil case where he was found to have raped another woman. And the complaints from at least one of his wives about violent rape.

[–] jim_v@lemmy.world 13 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I love that it has become an internet law to remind people that Mr. Trump has 34 convictions.

I call it Trump Rule 34. I'm gonna look it up to see if I coined a new phrase...

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Poor guy. I would have warned him, but that was almost an hour ago and surely he's already gone blind by now.

[–] Jumbie@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 hours ago

He’s probably feckin’ dead, mate. Gonna be in the files pt.2.

[–] CouldntCareBear@sh.itjust.works 23 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

People have jumped on this but it's just an anonymous tip done through an open web form. It's about as substantiated as writing on a bathroom wall.

Doesn't mean it's not true, but it's also the weakest evidenced thing in there.

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[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 125 points 14 hours ago (8 children)

So far none of the major outlets have covered this story but I have seen it on a ton of smaller sites. This seems odd

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 80 points 14 hours ago

The big ones are waiting to be told who the scapegoat is.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 68 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)
[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 41 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 13 points 14 hours ago

Thanks, I don't know what happened there.

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

Yeah I know I'm just wondering why they aren't reporting this huge story even the outlets that don't like trump aren't reporting it yet

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 16 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I mean there is a really simple obvious explanation. They have either been told not to or are afraid of repercussions from the administration

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Repercussions? Like getting your head blown off?

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[–] Microw@piefed.zip 5 points 5 hours ago

Because it is a claim made by one single person 25 years ago, as far as we currently know. The big outlets or at least some of them probably have someone on the ground right now trying to establish whether this claims makes any sense, whether this death actually happened, whether with this specific cause of death etc etc. They know that Trump will sue them if they get even a tiny slither of facts wrong.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago

They might be real files, but they might just be unproven accusations.

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 40 points 13 hours ago

Ideally, the bigger guys would be trying to corroborate the story by other means before reporting it. Verify facts before reporting claims. Generally the purpose of journalism.

Not that I have much faith left that the big guys do journalism.

[–] blarth@thelemmy.club 22 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

That is because it’s an FBI tip likely left by a mentally ill person. Read the whole thing.

Most of the “unredacted” stuff is of this nature. We are being played. What they did was hand America one of those archaeology digs for kids and people who don’t understand what was done are crowing about the mummy they found in the compacted sand they chipped away with their plastic chisel.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 12 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

If it was a Democrat in the story, it would be the top story EVERYWHERE.

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[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 9 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

How many major outlets aren’t owned by trump supporter?

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

My usuals are NPR, PBS, and NBC but I haven't seen anything from them

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[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 5 points 11 hours ago

It’ll get a small mention soon, when they’ve all decided how to Bari the lede.

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[–] Darkard@lemmy.world 73 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

Dont forget the ex-wife he pushed down the stairs because he hated him due to his affair. And then had buried on his golf course so he could claim it was a cemetery for tax purposes.

[–] ruuster13@lemmy.zip 46 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

He also violently raped her while they were married.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 40 points 11 hours ago

And yanked a handful of hair out by the roots because she had recommended the scalp reduction treatment for his baldness, and it turned out to be more painful than he anticipated.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 13 points 7 hours ago

I'm noticing a pattern

[–] Tujio@lemmy.world 23 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Nah, he had her buried there so he could cheat on her one last time.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 18 points 11 hours ago

She’s probably got a fuckton of the most incriminating top secret classified files with her, too

[–] Gerudo@lemmy.zip 55 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

When he said he could shoot someone and get away with it....I guess he was actually telling the truth for once.

Actually twice now....

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 12 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 13 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 54 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Feels like it should be easy to find a police investigation of this.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 43 points 14 hours ago

In a less corrupt world.

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 14 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Sure, if one was ever done.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 9 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think people get their heads blown off without some sort of investigation.

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 23 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

You would be amazed how many murders go almost completely uninvestigated in America.

Do some research on some of our more famous serial killers in American history,and police investigation surrounding them. What you'll find will disgust you. And that's just ones that we know about after the fact.

Especially so if the police force is tipped off that it might involve someone with lots of money.

[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 8 points 11 hours ago

In Oklahoma in particular.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

As a background watcher of more true crime than I'd like to have watched, you're completely right. In addition, the investigations the police do are often unbelievably terrible and have at times led to decades of the wrong people in jail or under suspicion because they're racist, xenophobic, or just plain lazy and bad at their jobs.

I watched one that I found particularly sickening where they spent lots of time investigating the dad of the victim and coersing a confession out of him when the paroled, actual perpetrator left a shoe with his name on it at the scene of the crime, and the victim's young brother said that his dad didn't do it and saw someone else take his sister.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Riley_Fox

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 43 points 14 hours ago

claim of a suspicious death in Kiefer, Oklahoma, in January 2000.

The caller said a woman was found with her head "blown off"

That certainly sounds suspicious.

[–] shittydwarf@piefed.social 28 points 13 hours ago

So trump has been linked to two murders now? Surely he will face consequences /s

[–] celeste@kbin.earth 23 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

https://www.fox23.com/news/local/kiefer-ok-mentioned-in-epstein-files/article_d8483262-b1fd-4f79-8322-31631887f732.html

When speaking to the police, they said they reached out to the FBI to see if the Bureau could help the dept. in clearing some of the redactions in the filings for them, so they could search records for specific names, but the Bureau was unable to do so.

[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 10 hours ago

the Bureau was unable to do so

Did they try copying and pasting?

[–] roscoe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 13 hours ago
[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 15 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Nothing is going to happen, except some Democrats will have to leave public life. Dear Leader is above the law. He is the law. And America seems OK with that.

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[–] Inucune@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago

Republicans and Trumpers are now playing the 'I don't like politics/don't want to talk about it" card. They're going back to quietly supporting all this rather than openly supporting it.

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