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The latest release of Jeffrey Epstein documents includes an FBI report about a caller's claim of a suspicious death in Kiefer, Oklahoma, in January 2000.

The caller said a woman was found with her head "blown off" in the small town in northeast Oklahoma days after reporting to police she had been raped by Epstein and Donald Trump. The caller described the death as a murder.

The FBI report was in the nearly 30,000 new documents released by the U.S. Justice Department on Dec. 23.

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 151 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

Oh, it's a different murder from the one Trump was implicated in a few days ago. That one was a baby born to a 13 year old rape victim and thrown into a lake. This one is a rape victim herself who reported him. You know you've picked a good President when he has too many alleged rapes and murders to keep track of.

[–] RaoulDuke85@piefed.social 26 points 4 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Candice_the_elephant@lemmy.world 19 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 4 points 59 minutes ago* (last edited 59 minutes ago)

Plus that civil case where he was found to have raped another woman. And the complaints from at least one of his wives about violent rape.

[–] jim_v@lemmy.world 2 points 34 minutes ago

I love that it has become an internet law to remind people that Mr. Trump has 34 convictions.

I call it Trump Rule 34. I'm gonna look it up to see if I coined a new phrase...

[–] CouldntCareBear@sh.itjust.works 19 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

People have jumped on this but it's just an anonymous tip done through an open web form. It's about as substantiated as writing on a bathroom wall.

Doesn't mean it's not true, but it's also the weakest evidenced thing in there.

[–] WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org -5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

I hate all this bullshit (Epstein, trump, politics right now etc..) But the way I watched people pull shit out of their ass when talking about that leak. If that's the comprehension and emotional level of the average human, society is completely fucked. But honestly that was already told by the reactionary drama of COVID and 2020s issues.

Like that alone tromps the whole Epstein and American politics thing because it means people are too stupid, lol. Like literally just too stupid for society to even be a society. It's almost to the level that sometimes I wonder if it's a psyop... People being so reactionary and emotionally dumb that that they are easily discredited so that trump ends up being the "sane" one.

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 47 minutes ago* (last edited 47 minutes ago)

The poster above did say "alleged."

I also agree with the sentiment.

[–] sexhaver87@sh.itjust.works 2 points 46 minutes ago

I think once you’ve gotten to the point that you’re considering Donald J. Trump, of all people, “sane”, you might be on the other side of the bell curve than you think.

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 118 points 10 hours ago (7 children)

So far none of the major outlets have covered this story but I have seen it on a ton of smaller sites. This seems odd

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 75 points 10 hours ago

The big ones are waiting to be told who the scapegoat is.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 64 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)
[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 38 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 11 points 9 hours ago

Thanks, I don't know what happened there.

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

Yeah I know I'm just wondering why they aren't reporting this huge story even the outlets that don't like trump aren't reporting it yet

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 16 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I mean there is a really simple obvious explanation. They have either been told not to or are afraid of repercussions from the administration

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Repercussions? Like getting your head blown off?

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

I mean, Oklahoma sets that precedent

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

They might be real files, but they might just be unproven accusations.

[–] Microw@piefed.zip 3 points 1 hour ago

Because it is a claim made by one single person 25 years ago, as far as we currently know. The big outlets or at least some of them probably have someone on the ground right now trying to establish whether this claims makes any sense, whether this death actually happened, whether with this specific cause of death etc etc. They know that Trump will sue them if they get even a tiny slither of facts wrong.

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 38 points 8 hours ago

Ideally, the bigger guys would be trying to corroborate the story by other means before reporting it. Verify facts before reporting claims. Generally the purpose of journalism.

Not that I have much faith left that the big guys do journalism.

[–] blarth@thelemmy.club 21 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

That is because it’s an FBI tip likely left by a mentally ill person. Read the whole thing.

Most of the “unredacted” stuff is of this nature. We are being played. What they did was hand America one of those archaeology digs for kids and people who don’t understand what was done are crowing about the mummy they found in the compacted sand they chipped away with their plastic chisel.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 12 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

If it was a Democrat in the story, it would be the top story EVERYWHERE.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

How many major outlets aren’t owned by trump supporter?

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

My usuals are NPR, PBS, and NBC but I haven't seen anything from them

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 5 points 7 hours ago

It’ll get a small mention soon, when they’ve all decided how to Bari the lede.

[–] Darkard@lemmy.world 63 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

Dont forget the ex-wife he pushed down the stairs because he hated him due to his affair. And then had buried on his golf course so he could claim it was a cemetery for tax purposes.

[–] ruuster13@lemmy.zip 39 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

He also violently raped her while they were married.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 31 points 6 hours ago

And yanked a handful of hair out by the roots because she had recommended the scalp reduction treatment for his baldness, and it turned out to be more painful than he anticipated.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 hours ago

I'm noticing a pattern

[–] Tujio@lemmy.world 19 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Nah, he had her buried there so he could cheat on her one last time.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 17 points 7 hours ago

She’s probably got a fuckton of the most incriminating top secret classified files with her, too

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 54 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Feels like it should be easy to find a police investigation of this.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 41 points 10 hours ago

In a less corrupt world.

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 13 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Sure, if one was ever done.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think people get their heads blown off without some sort of investigation.

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 21 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

You would be amazed how many murders go almost completely uninvestigated in America.

Do some research on some of our more famous serial killers in American history,and police investigation surrounding them. What you'll find will disgust you. And that's just ones that we know about after the fact.

Especially so if the police force is tipped off that it might involve someone with lots of money.

[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 7 points 7 hours ago

In Oklahoma in particular.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

As a background watcher of more true crime than I'd like to have watched, you're completely right. In addition, the investigations the police do are often unbelievably terrible and have at times led to decades of the wrong people in jail or under suspicion because they're racist, xenophobic, or just plain lazy and bad at their jobs.

I watched one that I found particularly sickening where they spent lots of time investigating the dad of the victim and coersing a confession out of him when the paroled, actual perpetrator left a shoe with his name on it at the scene of the crime, and the victim's young brother said that his dad didn't do it and saw someone else take his sister.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Riley_Fox

[–] Gerudo@lemmy.zip 49 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

When he said he could shoot someone and get away with it....I guess he was actually telling the truth for once.

Actually twice now....

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 10 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Projecting what he wants to be true, hoping everyone just accepts it. Ti's the fascist's way

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 43 points 10 hours ago

claim of a suspicious death in Kiefer, Oklahoma, in January 2000.

The caller said a woman was found with her head "blown off"

That certainly sounds suspicious.

[–] shittydwarf@piefed.social 27 points 9 hours ago

So trump has been linked to two murders now? Surely he will face consequences /s

[–] celeste@kbin.earth 22 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

https://www.fox23.com/news/local/kiefer-ok-mentioned-in-epstein-files/article_d8483262-b1fd-4f79-8322-31631887f732.html

When speaking to the police, they said they reached out to the FBI to see if the Bureau could help the dept. in clearing some of the redactions in the filings for them, so they could search records for specific names, but the Bureau was unable to do so.

[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 6 hours ago

the Bureau was unable to do so

Did they try copying and pasting?

[–] roscoe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 9 hours ago
[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

Nothing is going to happen, except some Democrats will have to leave public life. Dear Leader is above the law. He is the law. And America seems OK with that.

[–] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 2 points 53 minutes ago

I don't think it's true. Trump pisses ice water, but he's too spineless to get his hands dirty