They won't let her lawyers see her. That in itself is illegal. Judges need to grow some balls and start issuing arrest warrants for contempt of court for these dhs people who refuse to adhere to the findings of courts.
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Absolutely agree. They have to be held accountable otherwise, what a judge says is meaningless.
They move people immediately to new jurisdictions and don't tell anybody they did it or where so that any habeas motions you file initially are to the wrong court. Then people have to find you before you're deported.
It's absolutely disgusting.
My go-to question when people defend this shit is to ask them to prove to me they're a citizen on the spot.
Not many people even have a passport, much less carry one at all times.
Pro Tip: for an extra $30, you can get a Passport Card in addition to your passport. It is only valid as a travel document for land and sea travel within North America, but has the same proof of citizenship as a passport book. Everyone who is in the wrong half of the "Peter Griffin in a Fez" scale should carry it on their person at all times.
Yes, the ICE agent will say it's fake, and confiscate it, but at least you can keep your passport book in a safe place for your family to bring to the detention center to try and get you out.
Yeah - I used to carry one. I'm white as a ghost, but I used to drive to Mexico often enough it was worth not having to replace my passport book because it was getting stamped too often.
Do they stamp something to supplement the card? Is that not an option with the passport book?
Thanks for the info. I'm on the okay side, but my wife and kids are not. A redundancy of documentation is the way to go. I just hope it matters and denaturalization doesn't happen.
REAL ID requires proof of citizenship and therefore should be accepted as proof, but these ICE goons aren’t trained and/or don’t care to recognize ID. I have a passport and have it on my iPhone as Digital ID, and I guarantee no one at ICE is equipped with a reader or knows what it is. If I’m ever grabbed by ICE, I expect the only proof that will matter is my neutral American accent.
Real ID does not require proof of citizenship, just proof of legal residence. Digital passport is also not sufficient for law enforcement, just for verification for flights and some commercial establishments.
My bad. I was thinking of my requirements.
You're good just clarifying
And even if they can, it doesn't matter as there are reports of ICE agents simply claiming the documents are fake and taking them away anyway.
Her family has now been told she has been deported, despite U.S. District Judge Brendan Hurson ruling Thursday that she could not be deported pending a hearing.
Every single person who was involved in defying the judges order should be prosecuted and imprisoned for kidnapping, and more. "Mistakes" like this should carry severe, harsh punishment. Maybe when MAGA operatives start getting sentenced to 25 years to Life, they'll pause and consider the consequences of their actions.
They didn't follow the law and neither should we, they should be hunted down and eradicated.
Maybe when MAGA operatives start fearing for their life, they'll consider the consequences of their actions.
And this is why we had this thing called "due process."
“I used to work for DHS. I have a lot of respect for the agency. I do not hate the government. I do not hate the agency. I have been very frustrated with them this week,” Slatten told Newsweek. “Something that I thought would be cleared up in a matter of hours, naively… This is evidence that should have been enough on its face to let her go. It is very confusing to me why it's been such a struggle.”
Well you failed to account that it's composed almost entirely of racists implementing a racist agenda for the fascist administration. Maybe you should hate it more.
It's almost as if we have fucking documentation they could seek out to prove it...
For an administration obsessed with documentation for voting, you'd think they would check for documentation of being born here.
Fucking fascist cunts...
That'd be nice, but most of these fascist fuckers don't even believe in birthright citizenship
Just look at those eyes, can't you see she surely is a super dangerous criminal! A felon, a murderer and rapist, oops, wait, that's Donald Trump's description.
European here, I don't think that our primitive ways allow us to understand American culture. Could they introduce a mechanism by which these things can be assessed impartially and with evidence to discuss? They could call it "Due Process", or similar?
“An ICE officer may ignore evidence of American citizenship—including a birth certificate—if the app says the person is an alien,” said the ranking member of the House Homeland Security Committee.
I see. So "The ~~internet~~ app is never wrong" is policy.
Why anyone still cares what the DHS has to say anymore is beyond me.