Bedrock Minecraft has always been the micro transaction version of Minecraft.
If you're playing Bedrock and are now worried about Microtransactions, that's on you.
this post was submitted on 23 Dec 2025
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Yeah, I'm convincing my daughter to switch to Java or https://www.luanti.org/, the big issue is my ex doesn't have a PC for her, only an Xbox.
We will be forced to rent computers from nvidia soon anywayl
People don't have the money, at some point all the game publishers will go under or consolidate as people just play already released games and use self hosted servers.
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They just removed obfuscation from Java Edition. If they even try to do a single stupid move - like with chat reporting a few years ago - it will be simply modded out of the game.
The only thing that they might be able to do is increase the price for buying the game, mess with the accounts or illegally change their EULA - without notifying anyone - again.
Bugrock Edition on the other hand is already a dumpster fire for years, so nobody really cares about that one in the first place...
As long as the java edition exists it's still there.
Even if the java edition goes away, it will still be there.
If Java edition "goes away" it will just become a standalone community distributed platform frozen in development time.
Nah the modding community would pop the fuck off. Half of the work of the mod devs is keeping up with version compatibility. Imagine they no longer have to worry about version changes ever again? They can just develop their mod and put all of their effort into the latest version of Minecraft.
the main issue will be if they do a major API update right before they do it. Remember the great "flattening"? We lost many great mods when they did that because of the amount of changes they did to base code while simultaneously changing every ID in the game, while forge was also actively undergoing a major API change in how it worked. So as a result many mods stopped being developed at 1.12.
If they did a massive API rewrite right before fully ending support for java, the community will either have to accept another divide or completly forgo the new update and stay locked on the previous.
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https://www.luanti.org/ has long surpassed anything Minecraft had going for it.
Luanti sucks in modding support compared to minecraft. Luanti mods cant override game code, so the patches to the game code are impossible with mods. Due to this limitation, even the basic things like custom controls or shader support cannot be added using mods.
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I tried minetest long ago and was not particularly impressed. Has the community grown big enough?
The "Minetest" you tried was likely just the barebones example game that used to ship with the engine. Since so many people got confused by that, they stopped distributing that example game with the engine and now you get asked what fully featured games you want on first start. Voxelibre is the one that is like Minecraft but better.
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Does it support Minecraft mods, or does it have to have them converted/made special for it?
Because that's going to affect whether or not it has surpassed anything imo.
It has equivalents for most Minecraft mods (and more), but no, it is not directly compatible with Minecraft.
I think you should rather ask if Minecraft mods come even close to what Luanti games can do 😅
Is there anything like the ATM packs? Those are the majority of what I play, with ATM10TTS being my current playthrough
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Bedrock has been doing shitty monetisation for ages. Play Java, enjoy.
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What actually is this? The Website is rather unhelpful. Its just a Minecraft clone?
It started as minetest, an open source minecraft clone. It has since developed into a full voxel engine, supporting community made game modes and modpacks.
It has since developed into a full voxel engine, supporting community made game modes and modpacks
Thanks, that's exactly what I was talking about. What does that mean? Its a Minecraft clone?
It is a Minecraft clone, but it does a lot more. People are building new games with the same engine. It's called a voxel engine, because that the type of 3D that was popularized by minecraft.
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What actually is this?
Luanti is the engine that MineClonia runs on, and Mineclonia is a full featured, finished, Minecraft clone.
The Website is rather unhelpful.
Seriously. It's a little sad.
Its just a Minecraft clone?
For practical purposes, it absolutely is. Grab Luanti for free off of F-Droid or any Linux app store, or out of the SteamDeck Desktop "Software Center". Launch "Luanti", choose "Mineclonia".
Pick a username to "Register" (local play is identical to server play) and start playing free open, wonderful, easily modded, multiplayer Minecraft clone.
If a friend wants to join, just give them your IP address - even on SteamDeck or Android phone.
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What a fantastic awareness campaign for Luanti!
Luanti is actually pretty great so far. Some of it is jank in the way that you can tell its made by people who make software not necessarily artists but its still a good time. A lot of effort has gone into it over the years and I appreciate its existence
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Another little reminder:
- if you play games, do not buy microtransaction items or, if possible, games that try to sell them.
- If you are a parent, do not let your kids buy microtransaction items or games that try to sell them.
- If you know a parent who is not a gamer, share these concepts with them. They won't have these sorts of things piped into their bubble under any normal circumstances.
My kids, 10 and 14, are very anti corporate greed and I couldn’t be more proud. They also complain when they aren’t on the local WiFi if they are playing mobile games because the ads don’t get blocked. A couple years ago my youngest asked me to turn ads on so he could hatch monsters or something faster, I bypassed his device and a couple months later he was complaining that the game is a time sink full of ads and he doesn’t want to play it anymore and wants ad blocking re-enabled.
They aren’t perfect and I have never tried to preach to them too much. Not really sure where I was going with this but your post reminded me how much I appreciate that my boys actively avoid and protest against playing games with ads and micro transactions at such a young age and I felt like sharing with someone.
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If you'd like to build a 4th chest, you will have to buy some chest tokens using minecoins which of course has a tiered pricing scheme.
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Why do we live in a world where incompetent people are constantly rewarded
they are competent at being leeches, parasites, ghouls and bastards.
Corporate mantra:
Profits Rule Everything Around Me
Microtransactions may make a game an unplayable pile of shit most of the time, but they’re a great way to turn children’s allowances into corporate profit if you’re a gigantic corporation that doesn’t care at all about amount of fun that can be had in a game.
You can just download any of the older iterations of Minecraft and host your own server.
You don't need to be on the latest release.
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Minecraft Java edition feels like the "community" version of the game while bedrock seems like the awful micro transaction playground for Microsoft.
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additional context; Katie Scott, a former exec at ubisoft, will be the "Head of Vanilla Minecraft" in 2026. this source writes:
Scott left Ubisoft in November, but her role as vice president of the company's global creative game office saw her specialize in "competitive, live service, and free to play experiences to create games with lasting impact, high retention, and monetization results." She also writes that she focused on "live service strategies and ambitious retention and monetization" in Assassin's Creed and Rainbow Six games
now that sounds bad on paper, but it's unclear to me what exactly she'll be doing in this position. best i could find was this linkedin post advertising the position 7 months ago, which reads:
Join us in shaping the future. Minecraft isn't just a game. It's a platform for creativity, learning, and building community. We're seeking a senior leader, based in Stockholm, to guide our talented teams toward Minecraft's evolution. Help us build a better world through the power of play.
my interpretation of this is that she'll still be under other managers, and wouldn't be making any big decisions alone. regardless, this is not a good look for Mojang, especially at a time where the community are getting impatient with Bedrock's issues.
Highly recommend Vintage Story to those who love the survival aspect of Minecraft. In my opinion, it also offers a lot more creative freedom but you really have to work for it.
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They're never gonna put that stuff into Java, that's the fully Mojang version of the game. And even then it'll be as easy as ever to mod anything they try adding out.
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What an amazing time to have started playing Vintage Story
Good thing there's Luanti
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