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[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 85 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

News headlines in my country are like "Spotify attacked!!", "Millions of music tracks stolen!!".

Hilarious...

[–] comrade_twisty@feddit.org 28 points 17 hours ago

My teachers were the biggest thieves in history, they would hand out copies to us multiple times a day.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 hours ago

Not as dramatic but similar sentiment in german (tech) news.

[–] U7826391786239@lemmy.zip 44 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

now i just need a 300TB hard drive..

[–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 33 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (5 children)

Correction: you need a 200TB hardrive. By now, at least 100TB is AI generated shit music that you don't need.

Edit: these numbers are an (un)educated guess based on my vibes.

[–] Damarus@feddit.org 14 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Where does that number come from?

[–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 17 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Out of my ass. Its just commentary on the fact that spotify has AI generated music and that there is a growing amount of it. Maybe I should not have used such steong language.

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 20 points 16 hours ago

Everyone knows the best jokes are moderate and impeccably logical.

[–] freeman@feddit.org 14 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Good luck filtering it out. Or are they tagged as AI?

[–] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 4 points 13 hours ago

Nobody knows that. We haven’t downloaded the archive.

[–] bonenode@piefed.social 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I cannot be that much yet, seriously? Not flaming you on this, maybe you are right but it sounds unrealistic. Spotify has decades of music stored, AI has been round with ability to generate tracks just for a few years. Something like 10% of it sounds more reasonable to me.

[–] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 2 points 13 hours ago

Not even that. There’s decades of indie music from around the world on Spotify. I would be surprised if more than a few percent of the 200 million or so songs they scrapped metadata for are AI.

[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

i believe they sorted by popularity so that the AI generated bullshits are mostly not included?

[–] kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 17 hours ago

So that's already a sanitized version to download?

Link please

[–] m33@lemmy.zip 39 points 16 hours ago

Let’s go for a 300TB USB key on AliExpress

[–] bonenode@piefed.social 30 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (4 children)

Don't be too excited, guys:

Relatively popular songs are stored in their original 160kbit/s OGG Vorbis quality, while the rest use 75kbit/s to save hundreds of terabytes of storage.

75 kbit/s can sound pretty bad depending on the songs. If you listen to it on your phone speaker you probably won't notice, but this isn't for quality listening experience. Depends what they mean with popular though, maybe all "good" songs are stored in the higher bitrate.

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The only songs reencoded to that quality is a sample of the 0-streams songs, which do make up a lot of the total count.

Everything that has been listened to at least once is in high quality.

[–] hietsu@sopuli.xyz 10 points 8 hours ago

0-popularity, not 0-streams, which are two different metrics according to the archive blog post. But nevertheless, the re-encoded stuff is stuff pretty much no one will miss. Also Opus at 75kbps is much better than Vorbis or mp3 at that bitrate.

[–] figjam@midwest.social 5 points 5 hours ago

Oh no! The free music is not top tier quality for my ears!

Getoutahere

[–] potustheplant@feddit.nl 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I've literally never been unable to find ogg, flac or mp3s for any album on Soulseek. Why is scraping Spotify even necessary?

[–] Mondez@lemdro.id 2 points 6 hours ago

There is probably a lot of listening data that could be useful. Say you like a particular song, you could look at what other songs people who stream that do also streamed a lot?

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 hours ago

What I've read is it's about: Preservation.

This aint just about piracy because free media.

[–] dontblink@feddit.it 24 points 14 hours ago

I feel like this will put them much more under the authorities target, music is much more sensible than books, simply because it moves more money..

Anyway I still am wondering how they managed to do this and how they still didn't get caught, there must be reeeally good devs there.

[–] psycotica0@lemmy.ca 23 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

If instead of a giant omnibus torrent they put a folder structure on IPFS, it would be essentially a fully available streaming Spotify clone with the ability for people to "pin" tracks or albums or artists to have them stay locally on their device...

Just saying...

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 2 points 7 hours ago

You're right, but that's not their goal.

[–] Cherry@piefed.social 19 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Nice.

Would have been happy to pay but they just had to be a$$#oles

[–] FUCKING_CUNO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 10 hours ago

You can say assholes on the internet

[–] prismatic@ttrpg.network 14 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Very cool, though the quality leaves a bit to be desired.

For popularity>0, we got close to all tracks on the platform. The quality is the original OGG Vorbis at 160kbit/s. Metadata was added without reencoding the audio (and an archive of diff files is available to reconstruct the original files from Spotify, as well as a metadata file with original hashes and checksums).

For popularity=0, we got files representing about half the number of listens (either original or a copy with the same ISRC). The audio is reencoded to OGG Opus at 75kbit/s — sounding the same to most people, but noticeable to an expert.

[–] DavidDoesLemmy@aussie.zone 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I listen exclusively to 96kbps opus and it sounds perfect. Not sure if 75kbps would be noticeable.

[–] Spider89@piefed.social 1 points 3 hours ago

I don't know if I have bad ears but I cannot hear the difference in 90K OPUS from FLAC.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 5 points 6 hours ago

why must every good site draw attention to themselves like this? Make alternative site for music if you must make such a spectacle out of it, so when the hammer falls it doesnt take out the books too. Or at least have some kind of plan on how to survive it, which i really hope they do.

[–] veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Call me when it's actually released. "We'll release the music in the future" is worth exactly as much content as "we'll release a Batgirl movie".

[–] potustheplant@feddit.nl 7 points 12 hours ago

You don't need them to release anything. Just download soulseek and search for anything you want.

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 6 hours ago

Someone is getting assassinated over this. Watch and see. Just like that grooveshark guy.