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Most of what you eat is sausages. I mean, if we’re going to get literal about it. Sausage derives from the Latin salsicus, which means “seasoned with salt”. You might think of a sausage as a simple thing, but on this reading it is everything and nothing, a Borgesian meta-concept that retreats as you approach it.

From another perspective, a sausage is an offal-filled intestine, or the macerated parts of an electrocuted or asphyxiated pig or other animal – generally parts that you wouldn’t knowingly eat – mixed with other ingredients that, in isolation, you might consider inedible. For some reason, it is seldom marketed as such.

But to the legislators of the EU, a sausage can now have only one meaning: a cylindrical object containing meat. Never mind that cylindrical objects containing no meat have been marketed under names such as “Glamorgan sausage” (selsig Morgannwg) for at least 150 years. Never mind that even Germans once felt the need to call animal sausages mettwurst, to distinguish them from other kinds. Never mind that almost everyone knows what “veggie sausage”, “vegan sausage” or “plant-based sausage” mean. A recent survey of 20,000 Dutch people found that 96% are not confused by such terms, which is probably a higher percentage than those who can readily distinguish left from right. The consumer must at all costs be protected from an imaginary threat.

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[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 16 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Okay first of all, I'm a lifelong vegetarian german.

Second of all, Mettwurst is most definitely not a qualifier to mean "meat sausage", it is a certain type of sausage like Frankfurter or Wiener Würstchen.

When people say Wurst or Würstchen it is still understood as a meat sausage unless additional qualifiers are added such as veggie. Sad as it is.

[–] Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk 12 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Is it true that German vegetarians fear the wurst?

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 hours ago
[–] setsubyou@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

Mett did mean meat at some point in time before it came to refer to minced meat specifically. I think Mettwurst isn’t old enough for the “meat” meaning though, and also the author missed a chance here by not going for the even older meaning of just “food” (applies to English meat too) and claiming that we differentiate between edible sausages like Mettwurst and inedible ones like Kackwurst.

[–] bluesheep@sh.itjust.works 9 points 19 hours ago

The EU should contact Ordinary Sausage about this

(On a more serious note, this just seems like an (at this point very common attempt) from the meat industry to label non-meat items from using the term meat in their branding)

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago

Buffalo wings are named after the city, ya dingus.

[–] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 20 hours ago
[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

If the qualifier is only meat, nothing can be called a sausage with all the filler and other ingredients they're adding these days.

And in the end, it'll be in the supermarket with a label saying VEGGIE alternative for a SAUSAGE so it's all legally ok and nothing much changes

[–] freeman@sh.itjust.works 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

That's a dishonest representation of the qualifier. It's must have meat not must have only meat.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 1 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

The proposal states that “meat” means exclusively the edible parts of an animal and sets a list of 29 “forbidden” words for plant-based products, such as “beef”, “chicken”, “pork”, “bacon” and descriptive terms such as “breast”, “wings”, “drumsticks” or “ribs”

Reads like only meat.

[–] freeman@sh.itjust.works 1 points 12 hours ago

Why are you quoting the definition of meat? Your previous comment was about sausage.

If the qualifier is only meat, nothing can be called a sausage with all the filler and other ingredients they’re adding these days.

Which the proposal defines as:

But to the legislators of the EU, a sausage can now have only one meaning: a cylindrical object containing meat.

Nowhere does it say only meat.

[–] bramkaandorp@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Reads to me as saying that it must contain meat, not that it must only contain meat.

So any sausage with meat as one of its ingredients would count, but anything that doesn't contain any meat would not.

Which, to me, is ridiculous, because most vegetarian options have a variation on the word "replacement" on the packaging.

This is just the meat industry throwing it's weight around.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

That'd be crazy. It would mean 90% tofu and 10% leftover meat can be put in the meat section.

[–] bramkaandorp@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Maybe? I don't know the specific rules, so I just went the quotes text.

But yeah, that would be crazy.

[–] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 3 points 7 hours ago

As a non-European, this just sounds consistent with EU policy to me. I feel like people react to it differently based on what food they decided needs a hyperspecific definition today.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] biggerbogboy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago

Thank god you put the /j tag on it, I would've been offended otherwise! /s

[–] prex@aussie.zone 2 points 10 hours ago

Icantbelieveitsnotsausage™

[–] blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 hours ago

Asian cuisine have had salad sausages for time. They don't have meat in them so I don't know what all the fuss is