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[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The Conservatives under Polievre Have become a fool nothing obstructionist mob just like the GOP in the US. They aren't contributing anything positive to Canada or doing anything to benefit her people. They are chanting slogans and staging stunts. All they care about is getting into power and tearing apart the rights and institutions that Canadians fought for years to gain.

Canada deserves better that dollar store Trump and maple MAGA.

[–] GrindingGears@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The slide can't happen fast enough. It's time to move on from these people, like I get why people are angry, but these people aren't going to move the needle. They are grifters that are just going to farm your anger to enrich themselves. Boggles my mind that people can't see that.

[–] pilferjinx@piefed.social 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All of my peers that aren't explicitly conservative just seem to want change desperately. Does it matter if that change is so much worse. Apparently not.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 1 points 20 hours ago

Worse would be a or Lantsman or some other maple maga assclown leading the con party. Then again, fine - they will remain out of government until the end of time with radical right wing nutjobs at the helm.

[–] piskertariot@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

PP isn't dollar store Trump. He's not even "we have trump at home". He's verb the noun guy.

Trump is a billionaire, celebrity, 1980's cultural icon who decided to turn to politics for power.

PP is a career conservative from Alberta who vote blue because their grandparents vote blue.

They are not the same. They are not even remotely related.

[–] Threeskittiesinatrenchcoat@lemmy.ca 3 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

PP is putting on his high school production of "Look Daddy, I can be a bully too."

It looks especially awkward when he goes on Canadian news channels and just calmly reads the script he wrote for himself, he kinda sounds telemarketer, always coming back to the product, it's all very forced. Trump is a much bigger salesman, way more bombastic.

Poilievres online persona is so much more aggressive, he's catering his message for whomever he's speaking to. Trump is just Trump.

Where he is like Trump, is promising to use things like the notwithstanding clause to circumvent checks on power, interfere in issues outside his jurisdiction, and he never stops lying.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

This isn't a recent thing, though. Even after Peter Lougheed won Alberta for the blues away from he oranges almost 50 years ago, on a platform of diversifying away from oil and gas, his own administration ditched that plan to instead double-down on O&G and pork. The bait-and-switch is way more subtle now, but they were misguided even decades ago.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Liberals under carney are lite conservatives though

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

They kinda always have been; just they were a little milder about their pro-biz economic stance. If you want the Democrats, you know where to find them -- just look carefully, as they're all but wiped out.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

And under other circumstances they might worry about the NDP, but as it is, the Conservatives are spiraling off to the far right, the centre is left wide open, and the left wing of their party is too afraid of losing to crazies to undermine that.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 hours ago

Hardly lite...scrapping environmental measures while dropping taxes on yachts and private jets is not lite.

[–] GrindingGears@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

This journalist is playing 4d chess. Or he's hearing the drip drip, from his PP.

[–] Ininewcrow@piefed.ca 5 points 19 hours ago

At this point there are only the Blue Conservatives and the Red Conservatives (aka as 'the Liberals')

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 5 points 20 hours ago
[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There are still some conservative folks that believe PP is the best leader Canadian conservatives have had in a long while. I don't think that's the flex they think it is...

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

PP can be a terrible leader for Canada and still be the best the PC has to offer. The two ideas could still overlap.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 2 points 20 hours ago

There are also a lot of dyed in the will conservatives who like Carney and despise PP. And who voted for Carney too.