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[–] AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 240 points 17 hours ago (10 children)

WE. DON'T. WANT. THIS.

Mozilla, for the love of god, stop cramming AI into the browser when the vast majority of your users just want a privacy-respecting browser that works.

I've said it before, and I've said it again: I will not donate any more money to the Mozilla foundation until they stop cramming AI into everything, and you should too.

[–] goatinspace@feddit.org 58 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

They might be getting money from google that tells them what to do.

[–] kuhli@lemmy.dbzer0.com 71 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Nah, Google funds them so they can point at them and say they aren't a monopoly, directing what they do would ruin that.

Mozilla's perfectly capable of making dumb decisions on their own, they do that plenty

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 27 points 16 hours ago (2 children)
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[–] meejle@lemmy.world 134 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

Every product we build must give people agency in how it works. Privacy, data use, and AI must be clear and understandable. Controls must be simple. AI should always be a choice — something people can easily turn off. People should know why a feature works the way it does and what value they get from it.

Come on, this isn't Reddit, at least skim the article before you start with the performative outrage.

[–] CatsGoMOW@lemmy.world 139 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

It should be something that people can easily turn ON.

[–] korendian@lemmy.zip 29 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (3 children)

It is opt in, this article is click bait.

Directly from the horses mouth:

"In Firefox, you’ll never be locked into one ecosystem or have AI forced into your browsing experience. You decide when, how or whether to use it at all. You’ve already seen this approach in action through some of our latest features like the AI chatbot in the sidebar for desktop or Shake to Summarize on iOS.

Now, we’re excited to invite you to help shape the work on our next innovation: an AI Window. It’s a new, intelligent and user-controlled space we’re building in Firefox that lets you chat with an AI assistant and get help while you browse, all on your terms. Completely opt-in, you have full control, and if you try it and find it’s not for you, you can choose to switch it off."

https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/ai-window/

[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 48 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

We'll just ignore the fact that the chat bot menu setting randomly appeared after an update. Very opt in. The only way to kill the task it sparks is to go into about:config and kill all the browser.ml.* options.

No one here cares what Firefox says because their actions have already hurt the trust in them.

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[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 34 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

Except I literally had to dig through the about: config settings to turn off AI in my browsing experience. So they are already lying

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[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 106 points 17 hours ago

Nnnoooooo you dumb bastards

[–] karashta@piefed.social 77 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Jfc. The stupidest timeline, I fucking swear.

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[–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 74 points 17 hours ago

Ew ew ew.

No one is asking for AI, you weirdos!

[–] Soulphite@reddthat.com 59 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Yall saw Microsoft push stupid Copilot on everyone and fail miserably and said, "hold my beer!"

Bros, take the hint! No one wants AI bullshit. Firefox was the goto switch when Google Chrome was using 37 processes and 98% memory for one website... yall are fuckin up!

[–] pet1t@lemmy.world 14 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

IT department at my job encourages everyone to use Copilot and try to implement it more... I don't even know WHY I'd do it in the first place

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 14 points 15 hours ago (7 children)

That directive came from them but they didn’t want to issue it. I guarentee you the were told by higher ups to say that.

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[–] etchinghillside@reddthat.com 42 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Ready for this internet fad to die and go back to stone tablets.

[–] baldingpudenda@lemmy.world 11 points 15 hours ago (6 children)

Im not a luddite, I'll still use clay tablets.

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[–] SlackerPreface57@feddit.online 39 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Remember the way to disable all AI in Firefox.
about:config
browser.ml.enable -> false

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[–] XenGi@feddit.org 35 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Can't wait for ladybird to arrive to leave all this current browser crap behind me.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 22 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Remember to donate to open source development, y'all!

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[–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 13 points 17 hours ago

Thanks for the suggestion. Says on it's site summer 2026 is target for release. Still a while away, I wonder how long we have with Firefox before this takes over...

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[–] CAVOK@lemmy.world 29 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

They're going to use AI to identify and block ads for me, right? Or let me set a cookie preference and automatically apply that to every page I visit?

That would be rather useful things to have AI for IMHO.

[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 12 points 4 hours ago

Well no. They not gonna burn ai credits on that, they need it to identify your interests and sell you ads.

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[–] ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 27 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

If you're going to add AI shit it should be something people can easily turn on. It should be off by default.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 15 points 13 hours ago

Not only the setting off, but any sort of behind the scenes stuff related to it disabled as well. No automatic updating, no background processes to "keep it ready, just in case". Do that when it's enabled.

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[–] xartle@reddthat.com 24 points 1 hour ago (5 children)

I don't think anyone actually read the announcement, just the headline. Here was the new CEOs actual first point.

"First: Every product we build must give people agency in how it works. Privacy, data use, and AI must be clear and understandable. Controls must be simple. AI should always be a choice — something people can easily turn off. People should know why a feature works the way it does and what value they get from it."

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[–] sep@lemmy.world 23 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

As long as there is a easy way to disable it. And clearly communicated what they are doing. I do not begrudge mozilla trying to remain competitive with mainstream.

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[–] hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 21 points 14 hours ago (6 children)

Just use a folk of it at this point. Zen, Floorp, Waterfox, LibreWolf, Fennec, and IronFox.

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[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Waterfox. LibreWolf. Fennec.

Just use a fork; rawdogging Firefox is already a bit crazy.

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[–] ChuckTheMonkey@fedia.io 17 points 10 hours ago (8 children)

It's very sad as I don't think there's a proper alternative in short term. In the end, I am afraid that I'll have to keep using Firefox because it's essentially the "lesser evil",

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[–] blunderworld@lemmy.ca 16 points 17 hours ago (10 children)

Very unfortunate development, which seems par for the course from Mozilla these days.

I'm jumping ship. Which browser would y'all recommend at this point? Preferably something I can get on android as well as linux.

[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 41 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

LibreWolf is a great alternative on Linux. It’s Firefox with all the bs stripped out and out-of-the-box privacy settings turned on.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 17 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

This is what I have used for the last few years (after being a Firefox user for almost 2 decades), and yeah we're probably safe for a little while, but it seems the writing is on the wall. The LibreWolf team can only do so much when the core browser is constantly being enshittified. I hoped this was a flash in the pan thing and LibreWolf would save us until Mozilla regained its senses, but it seems they've gone batshit.

I too will be keeping my eyes peeled for what to use next.

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 14 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I'm hoping LibreWolf and Iron Fox hold out long enough for Ladybird to take off and I'll be switching

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[–] sonofearth@lemmy.world 16 points 7 hours ago (12 children)

As long as it is open source, it doesn’t matter. Forks like Librewolf will disable it.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 12 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

It does matter a bit.

Librewolf devs depend on firefox development. They just rip out the stupid bits. They're not prepared to maintain a hard fork. They could still decide to do it, but it would take more community involvement.

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[–] Fokeu@lemmy.zip 16 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

Thank god for librewolf, they fix most of the new Mozilla bullshit.

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[–] boboliosisjones@feddit.nu 13 points 15 hours ago

I said it before but they are really excelling at alienating their users in (failed) attempts at attracting new ones.

It pains me to see, I don't want to use chromium, but there is a limit...

[–] raldone01@lemmy.world 13 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (4 children)

I just found out about this on mobile firefox must be quite new too. That default opt in is really disgusting.

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[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 12 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Gonna need a new default browser now.

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[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 12 points 17 hours ago

I'll consider using Mozilla once Anthony Enzor-DeMeo is fired or fucks off.

My decision has been rammed through in the exact same uncaring and unilateral way that Tony wants to ram AI down Mozilla users throats.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 11 points 16 hours ago (12 children)

Ok so where do I go? Waterfox?

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