Germany: As you might have heard, we lost WW2 and were under allied occupation for a while with the country being split in two and being renamed. The old "Deutsches Reich" is no more. As you also might have heard, our Kaiser stepped down in 1918. Except: Some people who are great at brain stuff decided that all of that was not done in a completly legal way and that the german empire is still around. And since there is currently no Kaiser around, the position is vacant and that is a great opportunity to crown yourself! Therefore we have several kings and kaisers around and also some people that are claiming to be the successor of the allied army.
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I hope this is new to you. The US briefly had an Emperor.
Naturally, he lived in California
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Maybe its just me who sees politics in essence as a noble "profession" (corrupted and slandered by self enriching sharlatans) but i wouldnt consider conspiricy and lunacy as political fringe.
I think one big political fringe topic is that east germany should be "reestablished". Or that saxony and bavaria should become indipendent nations even with a monarchy (i used to be part of that in my teens. Aaah conservative shit hole nationalism bavaria country side. Wont miss it)
All the successors are frauds! If you read the Concordat of Worms from 1122, it says that the holy roman empire must be ruled together by the Pope and the Kaiser, and not the Kaiser alone!
Wrong empire. The Holy Roman Empire was dissolved 60 years before Germany unified as the German Empire.
No idea if it's unique to Germany, but one thing I always roll my eyes at is people losing their minds when a school cafeteria decides to have a meat-free day or even when it does serve meat, but not pork.
Many people are bizarrely emotionally invested in eating meat.
It's funny because some of those people are also "fuck your feelings!!" types, while being a ball of poorly controlled emotions themselves.
Germany: The extrem right thinking that we are self flagellating, because we have memorials about the atrocities commited under the Nazi regime. What they don't get: Normal people don't identify with the Nazis, so when you talk about self flagellation it is very telling about your identity.
Woah, I've never seen it that way. Thanks for the new perspective.
Unionist parties in Northern Ireland freaking out about GAA (Gaelic Athletic Association) clubs being present in "Protestant areas" of Belfast. They think people playing traditional Irish sports is a threat to their British identity and basically recruiting children to the IRA.
Unfortunately Belfast is still a city divided, and any cross-community initiatives are still met with hostility, mostly but not exclusively from the Protestant/Unionist/Loyalist side.
Meanwhile they'll be more than happy to fly Israeli flags, simply because the Republicans support Palestine out of anti-imperialist solidarity.
I didnt expect this whole thing in north ireland to be still a thing
The "Troubles" (sorry I need the scare quotes for such an understatement) weren't that long ago. Just about one generation.
Yes yes. About 50 years. I wasnt alive back then and to me all before 2000 feals so much more long ago eventhough my grandparents litterly lived threw that time and my parents were born and grew up then.
I guess its also because im neurodivergent, perceving time differently and dont have attachment to a location, nation, religion and stuff like that, why it all just feels foreign that these ideas and events are still so present in peoples minds that they cause trouble (I forgot what i originally wanted to write mid way threw this xd)
The Good Friday Agreement was only signed in 1998, which admittedly is before 2000, but not that far before it.
It still feels like "history" to me! If you know what i mean
Yeah as someone not from there, same. But I am not surprised at the sentiment still being very much alive when many of the main characters still are, too.
In Spain we have a problem with our flag.
The current one was adopted at the beginning of the 19th century and during that time it was more or less unifying (like all of them I suppose) but in the second republic (in the 1930s) the bottom stripe was changed to purple. After that, the fascist dictatorship restored the current one, and when democracy arrived in the 70s, only the coat of arms was changed.
Since then, a significant portion of the population associates it with fascism, the far right, and dictatorship; another portion says it should only be seen as a representation of the people; and a third portion couldn't care less.
Something similar happens with the national anthem.
The purple looked cooler in my opinion
And it would be so unique!
I guess I'm the political fringe in that I'm obsessed about our excellent (bike) infrastructure :)
That isnt fringe. That is just good urban planning and keeping our population healthy (i could even throw out from a capitalistic view why this is important)
I wish it wasn't as fringe, even here, but it's certainly not something you hear mainstream politics going on about often.
Brexit I guess. I haven't lived in the UK for 30 years so I try and get over it, but...
My boyfriend left the UK 3 years ago (i rescued them litterly) and visited them in august beforehand. Even today in UK media it is still heavily being talked about if it was good or bad, whether the UK should rejoin. Yadi yada yade
@JensSpahnpasta in the UK: national flags.
Really? What is the thing behind it? It undermining the union and provoking nationalism?
The current government's moving of Franco's remains a while ago didn't sit quite right with the right (they aren't fascist, they just want to give our former fascist dictator "the respect he deserves." Apparently he deserves a nonzero amount)
I guess there are still some people who think it'd be a good idea to try and get Karelia back from Russia. That aside, most fringe things are not that unique I think.
It would make a prettier border owO