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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/55094518

“The UK government wants technology companies to block explicit images on phones and computers by default to protect children, with adults having to verify their age to create and access such content,” the FT report said. “Ministers want the likes of Apple and Google to incorporate nudity-detection algorithms into their device operating systems to prevent users taking photos or sharing images of genitalia unless they are verified as adults.”

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[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 99 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

OMG. These plans are getting on my nerves.

When a parent gives a kid their device and sets the child’s birthday, then enable these. If the birthday is over 18, the let them do what they want.

Let parents parent the kid and get the government out of my life.

[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 7 hours ago (7 children)

Or just don’t fucking age gate shit.

Seriously who the fuck cares if a kid sees a titty?

[–] Mondez@lemdro.id 18 points 7 hours ago

Worse is that it likely won't be able to distinguish between intentionally titilating material and material intended to educate. Only over 18 are allowed to learn about human physiology after submitting identifying information.

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 9 points 6 hours ago

I've been watching porn since I was 10.

That's all. Porn is great.

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[–] MudMan@fedia.io 20 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

It's kind of unfortunate how much this has been encourage by petty online fights. People were very excited when "will somebody think of the children" was applied to, say, some social media content or gaming loot boxes because the Internet did not like those things, so they were very happy to ignore the pre-existing parental control devices and request blanket bans. Then people remembered that a bunch of old, prudish people on both sides of the political aisle don't like porn and it was too late.

Man, people love the "they first came for" argument online and I should have guessed the first time it really pays off in the 21st century it'd include the absolute most depressing things possible instead.

Anyway, this is bad and I don't like it, but UK politics are almost as bad as US politics, so I'm happy to let both stew in their own cautionary tale juices.

[–] evilcultist@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

None of those other things should require any sort of identity or age verification, though. In the case of loot boxes, government should be able to tell companies, “hey, you can’t sell that here”. In the case of age verification and nudity scanning there’s a whole host of issues from the fact that people don’t find loot boxes to be taboo or embarrassing to the fact that people do find nudity and porn embarrassing, to the fact that any scanning systems will false flag, to questions about who has access to the data that is submitted and how long it is stored, to how easy it could be to misuse the systems to go after disadvantaged groups (we all know LGBT content will intentionally be covered by this, whether they’re open about it or not, right?), to whether or not the system will be used for other purposes that either aren’t being said aloud or won’t be realized until after it’s implemented.

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[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

That seems the most sensible way of doing things. Apple probably doesn't want that outcome though because then they'll be liable for the implementation rather than, for example, the social networks or websites.

Always gotta be thinking about the Apple shareholders.

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[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 78 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Puritanical bullshit... what the fuck.

*It's like tumblr banning nudity, which basically came down to banning any picture containing nipples. Except like, for a whole backwards country.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 62 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

UK war on ...nudity?

Them being prude is nothing new but this takes the cake.

[–] BlueEther@no.lastname.nz 16 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Home of the [in]famous page 3 Girls

[–] SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world 4 points 6 hours ago

And decades-old The Benny Hill Show.

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 15 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

It's not about nudity. It's about control. The government wants full control over your computer and mobile phones.

[–] ClockworkOtter@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

I don't think it's anything as sinister from the current government. I'm not saying it's a good idea, but they're more stupid and weak than they are totalitarian. British Labour has had an obsession with "tech" solutions for social issues since the start of the Blair years. Sometimes it works, but as often it's mired in incompetency and corruption.

I suspect that this recent spate of apparent puritanism is because they recognise that gender-based and sexual violence are "issues" after the discourse around Adolescence, but they can't/don't want to do anything actually meaningful (improve welfare, job opportunities, life prospects) so are latching onto what they believe are "easy" solutions. No-one with power actually understands how net infrastructure works, or cares about privacy as a principle, but they do have a group think that also leads them to think that this might make some inroads with "the right."

It's all absolute garbage being slapped together by career politicians who don't understand anything and are primarily interested either in their next election or their post-parliament careers.

[–] Infernal_pizza@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 9 hours ago

Jesus fucking Christ I hate this shithole of a country

[–] SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world 41 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Gotta love how it's "better" in these assholes' "minds" to pretend sex doesn't exist than to actually parent them on the topic that the kids are gonna find out about anyway - often in an unexpected and/or uncontrolled fashion. I'd much rather get ahead of that and make sure they know what they need to before they come face-to-face with it and are clueless - something much more likely to result in what is a supposedly (because they sure are picking the worst way to avoid it) undesirable outcome in the end.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 17 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It's about surveillance. The nudity is a made-up reason.

[–] SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world 7 points 6 hours ago

I know this, but the general populace eats this shit up. They either refuse to believe that, or "think" it's somehow worthwhile to "protect the children" (because they sure AF can't be bothered to parent properly).

[–] deleted@lemmy.world 38 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

We need a solid linux phone fast.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 9 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Saw posts about one on Lemmy today, seems to be pretty cheap too

[–] raviiishing@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 hours ago (2 children)
[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 9 points 6 hours ago (2 children)
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[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 35 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Ahhhhhh just fuck off you useless cunts! Why don't you fix the fact that we've got kids fucking starving in this country before worrying about if they've seen tits before they're 18?!

It's dumb shit like this that is really pushing me to KMS once my mother has passed on. I can't stand sharing oxygen with these morons.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 17 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Never KYS for something that's somebody else's fault.

[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Look I'm just fed up with dealing with the slow burning of everything around me all because about a dozen people want extra zeros on their net worth and are tempting politicians to implement draconian laws with comparitivly miniscule bribes and I am obligated to spend 1/3 of my life and 2/3rds of my income satiating the desires of these bastards.

Fuck em. I'm done. I want peace, permanent peace.

[–] evilcultist@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Every person against this sort of thing that checks out is just giving them less resistance. It sucks to have to deal with it, and it’s a constant fight, but you’re not just fighting for yourself.

[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I'm sick of trying to educate people to see the bleeding obvious robbery of our lives when they'd rather blame their neighbours just because they have a different skin tone and it's less effort mentally than trying to understand the situation with all the neuances. I'm sick of fighting and struggling for a better life for them as well because they don't even want it. What's the point of putting in the effort when these ignorant fools don't even help and actively work against their own interests?

I'm mentally and physically exhausted, and I just want to sleep forevermore.

[–] evilcultist@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

That’s when you take a break and let someone else deal with it until you’re ready again. Or focus on a different fight and let that one go. You're irreplaceable, but your participation in that specific fight is not essential.

I hope you can find a break. I get tired of it, too. Sometimes just not reading the news or social media for a while is enough to recharge. The news and online commentary makes it impossible to even get small breaks that would’ve been common two decades ago and the consumption of it all can be exhausting enough to prevent us from taking any other actions.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I fear it won't be long before people decide to an hero in a spectacular way against their local fascist strongholds for the same reasons you outline.

At some point, people are going to have nothing to lose and the desire to send a message to those in power.

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[–] sleen@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 hour ago

The only thing that's important for them and their ego is hallucinating problems and making up solutions which benefit nobody.

We live in an age where children and teens are getting their rights stripped because of said perceived "dangers" - real effort being done into something that will harm everybody. While realistic problems such as starvation and poverty get swept up under the rug.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 32 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Soon: Police sirens have been detected, video recording terminated.

police begin shooting protesters

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 28 points 5 hours ago

What a joke world we are living in. UK is getting too crazy with their "protection children" and introducing age limits by people providing their password and IDs. And chat control. And now this again, blocking these pictures would require massive privacy issues and closed source operating systems that will lock the user down like North Korea.

[–] Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip 24 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Bringing back the prudish Victorian era?

[–] Prior_Industry@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago

I could actually imagine Starmer flustered by the sight of an ankle.

[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 4 hours ago

Seems more reasonable to put UK-blocking systems on them...

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 17 points 4 hours ago
[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 17 points 2 hours ago

that will quickly turn into "continuously monitor your users' screens for what they are doing so you can detect nudity" where the real aim will ofcourse be surveillance and selling highly personal data. I don't know about Apple but google will be all over it.

100 members of the lords vs one adguard filter

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 5 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

How exactly would such a system work?

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

The politicians don't care about those things. That's someone else's problem

[–] WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago

AI, of course. It’s 100% accurate.

/s just in case

[–] toebert@piefed.social 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

They're doing their part in UK politics. Tories stole everything they could and drove it all into the ground until everyone got sick and elected labour. Now they're raising taxes to put money back in and doing everything they can to make sure they're hated enough that there is no chance they get re-elected. Then, Tories can just walk back in and take all the money coming in from the new taxes again. It's a beautiful cycle of the general population getting fucked from both sides.

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[–] jrs100000@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (3 children)

My God. At least the US's fascism sort of makes sense from an internally consistent perspective. Make it make sense!

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[–] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 hours ago

Of ALL the things to block. Why not AI blocking? Or social media blocking.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 points 10 minutes ago

Kier Starmer is a nevernude. Pass it on.

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