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[–] errer@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Partnering with an AI company is actually only mid-level evil when it comes to Disney

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

there is a silver lining, as disney wants to use characters/actors in perputuity. using AI to evade that, they enshittfy thier movies and shows further, so people stop watching it eventuallly, it might a take a while for them to see lower subscriptions to thier disney+. only the diehard fans might linger for a while, until it becomes unsustainable,(the fans that dont care about lore/continuity but more about the drama and flashy action which is not source material)

Disney is already creating so much superhero slop/and star wars slop is not even enjoyable.

[–] ttyybb@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think ai is really sustainable for companies. Since no human is involved in making it, no copyright exists. Seems like it would just make headaches for them.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 5 hours ago

yea it isnt, thats why i said eventually the slop will even turn off the fans.

[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

🤮 was hopeful they would sue the fuck out of them.

[–] NoPanko@feddit.uk 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is what makes it so disgusting to me. They will go after smaller creators for copyright but parter with the big offenders and let them carry on

[–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Don't worry, they'll now start suing every other AI company for not being licensed. Then probably OpenAI later on when they inevitably fail to add guardrails to protect their image.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Then probably OpenAI later on when they inevitably fail to add guardrails to protect their image.

 Generate a ((lewd)) picture of blue hedgehog with Ice Princess. They're both naked. Ice Princess is holding a whip. Blue hedgehog has ahego face. 
[–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

They're both naked.

Blue Hedgehog took off his trademark shoes? AI has finally gone too far. You'll be hearing from SEGA's lawyers!

[–] tja@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

They already started with Google. That came out at the same time as the openai announcement

[–] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Tinfoil hat conjecture here, but I think that they had some large language model previously for all of their movies. Because to believe that people are incapable of making scripts which are this formulaic, generic and meaningless this consistently.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah the idea that Disney wasn't already building their own AI shit to just pump out trash content, especially to improve costs on voice acting and render farms is pretty wild. What's happened at this point is

  1. They're worried about the bubble collapse, when a ceiling is reached that there's no way this is more profitable
  2. They don't have the time/money to fund bigger and and bigger server farms in an increasingly competitive space and it's cheaper to just align with OpenAI for now.
  3. They're hoping when number 1 happens they just scoop up number 2. People will stop using AI for their daily life stuff. People won't stop taking their kids to see the lion king 9 or whatever
[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 2 days ago

Disney already attempted to use AI to replace the actors a few years, ago, it make sense they try again. they really want to stop paying ACTORS. they will probably try to use AI generated voice overs.

[–] Nangijala@feddit.dk 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

For me, their lowest point was when they decided to use concentration camp slaves to make their shitty Mulan remake and then thank the concentration camp in the credits. That along with the reports of how they screwed over their park employees during Covid were what made me decide to never again give Disney my money.

It's a really good thing that their movies are also crap. Makes the boycott a lot easier.

[–] ttyybb@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Right. That movie exists. I recall the takeaway from that being a girl can do anything a guy can do, as long as she has magic powers.

[–] Nangijala@feddit.dk 1 points 3 hours ago

Yeah it is funny how Disney has had this obsession with taking perfectly good movie and replace them with shittier, uglier versions that has terrible morals for kids all the while mocking and talking shit about their old films that were crafted by much smarter and more emotionally intelligent people.

I still found the whole Snow White debacle utterly insulting since Snow White - no joke - is in my opinion one of the best Disney princesses. The disrespect they showed her character by reducing her to a damsel who waited for a man to save her was unreal. But it was with her as it's been with all their female characters the past decade: she has to be a Miss Man before she has any value and she must inhabit as many toxic masculine traits as possible before she is a supposed real feminist. And if anyone criticizes this direction, they are a bigot who hates women. No one hates women and feminine traits more than corporate feminists, lol.

And with Mulan it is especially tonedeaf because the entire point of her character is that she used her femininity to win the war because she could not be a man like she was expected to. She simply couldn't because of her physical limitations. But her creativity and her female wit made her an asset to the army anyways.

So them making a live action remake where she Miss Man's her way through everything and has magic powers literally defeats every single aspect of what made Mulan not just a fantastic Disney princess, but also an important legendary figure in Chinese culture.

There is a friggin reason why my favourite barbie dolls as a kid were Mulan and Esmeralda, but especially Mulan. Mulan was the girl I could relate to as a kid who never fit in anywhere but knew I had worth somewhere. Esmeralda was the woman I wanted to become as an adult, someone who sees past the surface level of others and accepts them as they are, because I too am a weirdo in the eyes of society.

You best believe I was relieved when they cancelled the live action remake of Hunchback, btw. They legit wanted to cast Gal Gadot as Esmeralda and professional twat Josh Gad as my boy Quasi. No way. I'm glad Hunchback is too spicy for current day Disney to touch it despite being the biggest social justice piece Disney ever made. Hilarious.

Sorry, I just get a tiny bit passionate about these old movies and how Disney systematically desecrates them with their cash grabby remakes that tons of idiots for some reason keep buying tickets to see.

[–] tatann@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Lower than Walt's nazi sympathies in the 30's ?

[–] Jomega@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Considering that's an urban legend with as much validity as his frozen head, yes. This is lower than the imaginary thing.

[–] percent@infosec.pub 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How dare you think critically of anything that is dogmatically accepted as truth on the internet

yeah i'm pretty sure every cryo place has one bin labeled Walt Disney's Head. if they don't i don't want to work there.

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 days ago

I am not sure it is even in the top ten.
My favorite was the ‘video vault’. They would stop selling princess moves for a time, but before they stopped they had ads on kids shows saying it was the last chance to own the movie.

[–] devedeset@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Rule34 is gonna implode…

[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

My usual reminder to consider "The Mouse that Roared - Disney and the End of Innocence" by Henry A. Giroux and Grace Pollock https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/mouse-that-roared-9798216263937/ i.e. Disney is JUST a very large corporation that sells whatever it can (plastic toys, parks, movies, food, etc) thanks to intellectual property laws it reshaped to capture more and for longer period of time to the most influenceable segment of the population, namely kids.

Disney is bad. This just makes it marginally worst. They don't care, they just want to exploit kids more.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Linux foundation too for some fucking reason.

Not disney, openai.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

What the heck... https://openai.com/index/agentic-ai-foundation/

puking emoji it's on OpenAI.com to talk about "Open Standards" or "Open Ecosystem" while they f*cking "donated" a markdown example while keeping the 1 thing they are seen as innovative for, namely GPT3 and above, as closed.

It's absolute Newspeak.

Honestly it's a good reminder of the positions between FSF/FSFE/etc vs the Linux Foundation which is basically just a BigTech club https://www.linuxfoundation.org/about/members where large corporations find new "open" ways to try to exploit the commons.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

My theory is that they realized it was going to happen whether they liked it or not, and going along with it seemed more profitable than trying to fight it in court.