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[–] asbestos@lemmy.world 159 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I remember when 8TB SATA SSD was $350

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 40 points 1 day ago

pepperidge farm remembers

[–] seraphine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 day ago

sure grandma, lets get you to bed

[–] etchinghillside@reddthat.com 121 points 1 day ago (4 children)

My mind forgot that M.2 is probably more prevalent these days and that they’re not just shutting down for no reason.

[–] Hubi@feddit.org 48 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Is it though? Pretty much every single current-gen mainboard still comes with a number of SATA ports.

[–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 70 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Most people have one drive. Everything else is cloud based now. It's horrible 😭

[–] errer@lemmy.world 87 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Omg I didn't even mean OneDrive but I guess that's still accurate since windows is dominant on home PCs

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

I've got 4 drives and better upgrade while I can.

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[–] RamRabbit@lemmy.world 49 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (12 children)

Everyone is going to buy M.2 SSDs first, and only buy SATA if they don't have enough M.2 slots. I really doubt SATA SSDs are selling well.

With that said, I don't see SATA going anywhere. It's (comparatively low) bandwidth means you can throw a few ports on your board and not sacrifice much. For some quick math: a M.2 port back-hauled by PCIe 4.0 x4 has 7.8 GB/s of data lines going to it. While SATA 6.0 has only 0.75 GB/s of data lines going to it.

[–] tburkhol@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

SATA is really convenient for larger storage, though. I keep my OS on nvmes, but I've got a couple of SATA drive and a hot swap bay for games, media, etc.

[–] clif@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I'm still running SATA spinny disks for my big-ish data. I can't afford a 16TB SSD...

I know that's off topic, but HDDs are still a thing too.

[–] RamRabbit@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

I'm very excited for the day I can replace my spinners with SSDs. That day is coming, but it is not today.

[–] TVA@thebrainbin.org 10 points 1 day ago

Right‽ I don't think anyone expected spinners to outlast SATA SSDs!

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[–] Magnum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago

Here I am, I have like 3 or 4 m.2 drives but like 15 or something SATA drives

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[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah, but I think SATA is quickly being relegated to large mechanical storage drives. For things that don't require performance, like storage and what have.. because SATA is not getting any faster, I doubt anyones gonna come out with a SATA IV standard at this point, when PCIE over M2 is easier, simpler, and faster, and.. outside of silicon shortage stupidities, getting cheaper and more affordable.

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[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 101 points 1 day ago (5 children)

This bubble is going to become the entire market, isn't it. Until it becomes too big to fail because 80% of the workforce is tied up in it. Then it is allowed to pop, costing the western world everything, all going into the pockets of the super rich, and we get to start over.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 45 points 1 day ago (8 children)

That’s the entire point. It’s a scam.

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[–] Khrux@ttrpg.network 20 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I heard a theory (that I don't believe, but still) that Deepseek is only competitive to lock the USA into a false AI race.

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 14 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Then it is allowed to pop, costing the western world everything, all going into the pockets of the super rich, and we get to start over.

After the bailouts at the expense of the poor, of course.

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[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 70 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

AI has taken more things since it's big push to be adopted in the public sector.

Clean Air

Water

Fair electricity bills

Ram

GPUs

SSDs

Jobs

Other people's art and writing.

There are no benefit to this stuff. It is just grifting.

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 66 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

Yet another chapter in the fucking AI craze started up by them fucking techbros.

Also, someone forgot that in some places in the world, people have to use older PCs with SATA drives. That, until their discontinuation announcements, Crucial and Samsung SATA drives were several tiers better than, say, those cheapo Ramsta drives.

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[–] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 46 points 1 day ago

Can we just burst this damn AI bubble already?

When I built a PC a couple of years ago when I really didn’t need one, then over specced it just because. I’m very happy right now as the prices are insane, feel like I could sell the PC for more than it cost me which mental.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Tbh its not a bad call. Used to work somewhere that bought hundreds of 500gb SATA SSDs for laptop upgrades that just... sat on a shelf, because none of the new laptops ordered could even take a SATA drive. Hell, they're Crucial branded so they're probably collectable if micron keeps crucial dead for long enough.

[–] RamRabbit@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That sucks. They probably could give them out to employees as a little bonus thing. Build a bit of goodwill. Rather than have them sit on a shelf.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Government. Ain't nobody want to get caught "stealing" from the government (they're probably going to be destroyed ten years after they're completely obsolete). Waste of damn near a hundred terabytes of storage.

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[–] northernlights@lemmy.today 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And then most people won't know what to do with it, possibly flooding the helpdesk with requests.

[–] RamRabbit@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It would have to be a voluntary thing, not just handed to everyone. "Put your name on this sheet if you want one."

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[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 33 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Cries in PC gamer

I'm glad I already have a good setup and shouldn't be buying anything for a good while, but damn it. First the GPU, then RAM, now SSDs.

[–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 15 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Next step, modular desktops as a concept will die, probably.

I hope people like locked-down black boxes they can't upgrade and can't run their own OS on in the future, so byebye Linux and BSD in that scenario outside of niche devices.

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[–] CoffeeTails@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What if we get a lack-of-new-computers-crisis before the AI-bubble bursts

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Don't worry, you can use AI on anything that can access the internet! No need to ever have personal (let alone private) thoughts - I'm sorry, data - again.

MS has been trying to get you to give up your personal computer for years. Do everything in the cloud, please! Even gaming with Stadia! And now they're getting their wish. All it took was running the entire global economy.

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[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago

awesome! Thank you shitty ai.

[–] calamityjanitor@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I have 4x 6TB HDDs in my NAS. Around 5 years ago I decided to simply replace any dead drives with 6TB ones instead of my previous strategy of slowly upgrading their size. I figured I could swap to 8TB 2.5" SATA SSDs that had just started to exist and would surely only get cheaper in the future...

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The ai crash is going to slap the tech industry hard

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Not just the tech industry. A huge proportion of the US economy is made up of betting on AI. Like the crash of 2008 (but worse, some predict) it will hurt everyone but the richest, who will become even richer.

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[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 1 day ago (9 children)
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[–] nuko147@lemmy.world 19 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

The leak comes after another report detailed that Samsung has raised DDR5 memory prices by up to 60%.

MF.. And why they wind down SSD production this time? Last time was 2 years ago, because the SSD prices were low and they wanted to raise them (which happened).

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[–] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Isn’t the source of this one of those YouTubers that just throws everything at the wall until they get something right?

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[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I take issue with this forced distinction they are making

Micron, like Samsung and SK Hynix, already supplies memory chips directly to third-party brands such as G.Skill and ADATA. Even without Crucial-branded kits, Micron DRAM continues to reach consumers through other manufacturers, meaning overall supply remains largely unchanged.

Nobody ever officially suggested the Crucial supply was likely to shift to the other manufacturers for consumers. On the contrary people expect this to be a step towards a general redistribution of manufacturing capacity towards HBM for parallel compute products.

By comparison, Samsung exiting SATA SSDs removes an entire class of finished consumer products from one of the world’s largest NAND suppliers. Tom argues that this is why the Samsung move is “worse” for consumers: it directly affects how many drives are available, not just who sells them.

If you wanted you could make the same argument as for Micron. Who says the Samsung NAND couldn't be bought by other OEMs to make consumer SSDs. It's just as possible as the Micron supply shifting to other OEMs who make consumer RAM sticks.

To me neither are likely. The manufacturing capacity both companies are pulling from the consumer market in both cases is going to go to the higher profit margin parallel compute server market. Neither is worse than the other, they are both equally bad news for us consumers.

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[–] nao@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why would ending sata ssd production create price pressure for m2 ssds? If anything, they should be able to produce more of those.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 day ago

M.2 is just a connector, you can run SATA over M.2. But you're right, freeing up 2.5" production for M.2 should reduce price pressure.

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