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Watch the guy who disarmed one of the shooters
Real fucking hero. He was shot twice during the scuffle and was in surgery expected to survive.
His name is Ahmed al Ahmed. Found the footage of his relative being interviewed and he is named. Saw it early in Aussie news, can’t remember if it was 9 News or ABC (Australia Broadcasting)
Edit: updated link
Can't believe the guts that must have taken. Absolute legend.
They immediately labeled it a terrorist attack. In the US this would've been called Tuesday.
When was the last time Australia had a mass shooting before this?
Around 30 years ago in Port Arthur. I think 40 people were killed that day. It triggered our national strict gun laws, although they're continually being watered down since we've been experiencing more gun violence in the last decade.
No we'd call it a terrorist attack because the shooters are arab. Have you been paying attention the past 24 years?
At least 11 people were killed in a shooting targeting the Jewish community at Australia’s famous Bondi Beach, and 29 people were taken to the hospital.
A man believed to be one of the shooters has been killed, New South Wales Police said. The second alleged shooter is in a critical condition.
It was an organized Hanukkah event at the beach.
Awful, just awful :(
What no one seems to be asking is the obvious question: how the fuck did these attackers get hold of guns? This is Australia folks not fucking America. We have laws to stop exactly this. How, where and by whom were they circumvented? More importantly: how can we prevent this from happening again?
Hunting with firearms is not illegal in Australia. They are relatively common in rural areas, they have their use. All you need is someone stealing guns one way or another and then smuggling them to the city. It's not like the police will stop you to rummage through your belongings... unless you drive like an absolute reckless imbecile.
I don't think you can prevent this from happening again. You can definitely take measures to make it more difficult to happen again, ie. police cordoning an area where there is a religious gathering. But there is always a way. You can't control everything. When it's not guns it's a car driving over people or explosives or poisoning or whatever.
You can get semi automatic hunting weapons relatively easily, same as in New Zealand.
The problem is, there's enough people with a legitimate use case of firearms that banning them completely isn't possible.
A cat C license (self loading) is a lot more difficult to get than a cat A,B licence. So far this has worked, no semi auto terrorist attacks since Port Arthur. Thank fuck these guys did not have semi auto weapons.
I honestly wouldn't have much issue with them removing the cat C licence, effectively banning semi auto outside of military use. But it certainly has some legitimate use cases in feral animal control.
This is the exact question i asked my spouse when told it was in Australia. I was under the impression that their gun laws are fairly strict?
Their gun laws are strict, compared to America. But the notion that Europeans and other first-world citizens can't have guns is far from the truth. Hell, some laws are looser. Most (all?) Europeans can buy a suppressor, and I gather those are mandated in some places, or at least you're frowned upon for not having one.
One of my favorite GunTubers was visiting and interviewing in a central European gun shop (forget the country, sorry) and I was like, "Well, shit. They can buy about anything we can buy!"
America doesn't have a gun problem. America has a culture problem. I could tell you a dozen stories of idiot Americans not understanding the laws we already have. Many of those idiots are dead or in prison.
I hate Australian Nazis.
One of the men was named Naveed Akram, so take of that what you will.
Am thinking this was a bit less Wehrmacht related and a bit more Gaza..
..but yeah.. obligatory fuck NAZIs just so no one misunderstands my point.
This news comes less than 24 hours after Hamas leader was killed in Gaza, during cease-fire no less. These innocent people have nothing to do with that, and it's possible it's not related, but BOTH sides need to stop this madness or it will never end.
One of the men was named Naveed Akram, so take of that what you will.
What's in a name? That which we call a Nazi, by any other name would stink as foul.
You see, everyone in there is surprised because it happens in Australia, not USA.
Everyone is surprised because it happens there SO RARELY, because of strict firearm rules.