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Joining the lesser of two evils party.
The bad and the worse.
I hope the other people he mentioned who are also fed up with being a pure obstructionist government break off and form an actually progressive Conservative Party, and PP can fuck off and run the PPC with Bernier.
If enough conservatives cross the floor, maybe Canadians will recognize the Liberal party as the progressive conservative party it is and let the NDP own the left.
Exactly. It's time to put to an end the myth that the LPC is a "progressive" party.
Traditionally, Canadians have been socially liberal and fiscally conservative and fairly “centrist” overall. That has mostly described the Liberals with the Conservatives mostly coming in to power after periods where the Liberals have been less fiscally conservative.
The NDP struggles to create a national mandate as they are perceived as too fiscally left (what gets the Liberals in trouble). The Conservatives are sometimes seen as too socially right, opening the door for the Liberals.
Carney's managed to get PP whine about him discussing Alberta's oil pipe dreams of all things... Canadians are catching on that Pierre will not be happy even if Conservatives get stuff they have presently or previously campaigned for.
Nobody gets Pollievre to whine. That’s all he does and all he knows.
"I will remove the carbon tax again!"
PP can fuck off and run the PPC with Bernier.
Neither will settle for being second banana to the other. They would fight for control and further weaken the already irrelevant PPC.
Which is absolutely fine with me. The party of misfit politicians needs to remain irrelevant.
I'm happy that Polievre may get the comeuppance he so richly deserves, and the CPC may sink further into irrelevance. But there's a bigger point here: the LPC is now openly the real conservative party--it has been for a very long time, but they succeeded to some degree in making people believe they were "progressive"--and further, thanks to these desertions they are now very close to having a majority of seats. (I hope the people who voted for the floor crossers have learned their lesson). If the Liberals do get a majority, they should do the decent thing and call an election, because nobody voted for this.
If you do not mind me asking…
If you want the CPC to “sink further into irrelevance”, what do you expect from another election?
CPC in charge - it sounds like you do not want that
Liberals in charge -“nobody voted for this”? Sound like you do not want that either.
So, am I to understand that you think an election would put the NDP in charge? That seems very unlikely.
What outcome are we hoping a new election will deliver?
Liberals do get a majority, they should do the decent thing and call an election, because nobody voted for this.
It’s in the interests of the elites to have phoney majority governments. This is why they staunchly oppose proportional representation.
Except the population is still shifting right. Slowly but surely, their numbers are growing.