Tsk Tsk. Making fun of your parents for their lack of RAM at your age
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Jokes on me my parents only needed half a gigabyte of memory to do anything they could possibly imagine
512MB? Windows XP had 128MB recommended.
How old are your parents? How old are YOU? Should you even be online?
My friend, you have to understand people who are 18 exist online with real opinions. We're getting old
There are people who were born in 2008 who are 17. Point is greybeard there are definitely adults who postedate windows XP which came out in 2001. In 2001 I was 2 at the most and only on the last month and a fifth of the year, I am now 26.
Fuck shouldn't you still be in elementary school? What happened to my fucking life?
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We have to keep remembering ourselves that people born in 2000 are already too old to be doing milf porn.
he is the one who voices all of our RAM and MB thoughts
Mine had money because they refused to buy a PC at all. They were new at that time and the average cost for one back then was like 3k, they said nah were good.
I lead and manage a financial/tech team in a critical, well-established company.
I haven't had a pay raise in 2 years and still work hourly.
It wasn't always like this, the last several years have really, really escalated the global undercurrent of hate towards employees. I feel like every single meeting in not just this company but many others (I have eyes in other places) always report "exceeding financial projections" while at the same time scaling back benefits, hiring and wages. Many other companies I've watched get digested by private equity after faking their own value, so it's basically every business-owner's goal right now to get bought out for millions and leave the employees stranded.
For that matter, I have years of experience in this industry as well as experience managing, using the tools and software, and doing somewhat specialized analysis work, and it still took almost two years unemployed after my last position got gutted just to land this job and it took twisting the arms of contacts and acquaintances.
During those two years I exhausted every avenue and encountered more scams and ghost-jobs than I can count.
Lemmy, I know you really don't want to hear this, but if you're not actively making contacts, playing the game and being social, your chances of getting a job that doesn't involve a you wearing an apron and name-tag and cutting you off at 39 hours a week is fucking abysmal. You have to exercise muscles you didn't know you had if you want to land a stable job even adjacent to your actual qualifications.
Degrees, certifications, etc. are still important, but it's bare-minimum, hiring managers broadly are looking for people with enough experience (or can fake having experience) that they don't need as much training and people who are social and friendly enough that they feel "at ease" bringing new people in, because so many of them have been directed to keep costs as low as possible. So much of this shit is vibes-based right now.
I think a better takeaway is this... Hiring runs on nepotism. It always has, but for a while you could go through an application process and land a decent job
You have to work your social connections to find a job these days. People are just way more willing to put in the energy to evaluate you if they have someone vouching for you
Especially now with remote work and AI... The screening process has devolved into nonsense. If they're not pulling your resume out of the stack, it's very likely no human is looking at it
The process is weeding out everyone who feels awkward about self-promotion or being pushy, which is a shame since that also weeds out a lot of fantastic candidates. I'm sure upper-level management doesn't care, but in the trenches I much rather have people who are experts at their work or are smart and can get the work done than outgoing business-speakers who like to be seen and heard.
But that can't be changed. We have to adapt and learn to be at least a little pushy and get out of our comfort zones.
I know it's obviously much easier said than done, but this is exactly why unions exist.
I have a union position, and none of what you just said applies to me. It's wonderful.
Union jobs seem to apply to specific trades. I haven't heard the word uttered in my entire last decade of jumping between tech/finance sector work, and I wouldn't dare utter it.
Not gonna dox myself, but I'm not in tech, but I am an engineer. No reason they shouldn't be more widespread, beyond decades of anti-union rhetoric and propaganda.
Unrelated-ish, but the job that treated me the best and gave me raises at the drop of a hat, also was the one that betrayed me the hardest and set me up to choose between replacing my team of a dozen people with foreign workers, or lose my own job.
It felt like something out of Better Call Saul, the way they "suggested" that I "look into the option" of outsourcing our team, and when I said that I didn't think it would save us as much money as keeping a domestic team who knows what they're doing, they nodded and suddenly let me go a couple months later after treating me like a rock star up until that moment.
They did eventually fire everyone and move operations to India.
It's because those at the top have deluded you into thinking you have it better than them, and you don't "need" it.
You have far more in common with the during mopping the floors than you do with those at the top.
I'm not deluded, I just don't have a choice, not every field or industry has the option of rallying together the glorious people's union when it's just an assortment of diverse teams working on specific areas of the company. I've never felt any kinship or closeness to the CEO's and CFO's, my relationship with my work is just work.
All it takes is organizing. It's obviously easier said than done, but it's absolutely possible
I’d very much like to see the Accountable Capitalism act hit these companies. Force them to rethink their employee-hating positions when they need their votes to win over the board.
Just download more RAM, holy shit
👎 download more RAM
👍 make software use less RAM
👎 download more RAM
👍 ~~make software use less RAM~~ make development take 10 times longer and get fired from your precarious dev job as you wasted time making optimisations no one needed nor asked for
Fixed that for ya
Non ironically: In practice it mostly boils down to experience, writing relatively efficient software should not take much more time or even long term accelerate development (less time to wait) (I don't talk about the last few percent of compiler reverse-engineered SIMD optimisation that takes time...)
I detest the state modern web development has downspiraled to. I bet I'm faster writing a big application in Vanilla js vs using the abomination that Next.Js has come to...
I wish that were true but writting efficient software, with low allocation, low memory foot print, all that good stuff, definitely takes more time.
Welcome to Rust which "solves" this issue...
Yeah it takes more time than a quick and dirty python script. But when I'm counting the countless hours (what irony) into this equation because of mindless leaky abstractions and resulting debugging, I'm certain that I'm at least not a lot slower writing that. As I said I'm not talking about the last 10-20% of performance that's possible say even up to 40%, but more like an order of magnitude (at least), i.e. algorithmically insufficient or relying too much on that your abstractions do everything right and you use it correctly (which in the case of react is seemingly not the case, when looking at the modern web).
Taking that example (Rust) again, I very often get away with .clone() everywhere, i.e. not even caring much about performance while the performance is not significantly impacted.
Then I switch to our typescript code-base in my job and get aggressions because of this extreme slowness (because of stupid abstractceptions, like wtf? shadcn needs to be built on radix-ui needs to be built on react etc. which in effect results in a slow abstraction-hell... and leaky abstractions everywhere)
It's a culture problem too. Just today, reading about OLPC:
Jim Gettys, responsible for the OLPC laptops' system software, has called for a re-education of programmers, saying that many applications use too much memory or even leak memory. "There seems to be a common fallacy among programmers that using memory is good: on current hardware it is often much faster to recompute values than to have to reference memory to get a precomputed value. A full cache miss can be hundreds of cycles, and hundreds of times the power use of an instruction that hits in the first level cache."[54]
Is this the death of somewhat affordable computing?
This is part of the death of accessible luxury goods entirely.
It's not just RAM, it's every other computer part, it's your milk and coffee, it's your gas, it's your plans on getting a car that actually works, it's your chances at owning any kind of investment ever.
The forces of capital succeed when people want things, and no better way to make people want things than take away everything else. Gotta get those black friday stampedes at Best Buy and the only way you do that is make it too tempting to pass up paying only 150% markup on TV's instead of the usual 200%
You can compute on DDR3 just fine, I do it every day..
Remember kids: Unused memory is wasted memory.
RAM is a resource that works best when you have more than you need. I always want there to be some unused RAM because then my system can do anything it needs to without spending time swapping out the least recently used pages before it has any free ones to use.
Shitty programs that take GBs of memory to do things that should only need MBs or KBs of it isn't "getting my money's worth out of my computer".
I agree, having a bit more memory than you typically use is a good idea, there is a point of diminishing returns though. If you typically use less than 16GB of memory, buying 64GB isn't really giving you much of an advantage because the majority of that memory will sit unused. You could argue future proofing, but the fact is you would be better off waiting to purchase that extra memory when you actually need it as it will (usually) be cheaper by that time.
This hurts, I finally decided to build my first own PC like 2 months ago, got everything planned out but decided to wait for black friday to actually order all the parts. Now I have everything except RAM and an SSD, because I refuse to pay those prices 🥲 Maybe I'll buy a single second hand 8GB stick just to find out whether my system even boots..
My current PC is decently specced today but it's definitely a very ship of Theseus situation. Everything apart from the ram and motherboard has been changed over the years as new deals sprung up and I could afford better parts. You can definitely make due with less until either the shit floats away or you end up in a better financial situation.
Yeah, that's what I'm hoping to do with my system too! I'm not even in a bad financial situation rn, I just don't really need that PC asap and don't want to encourage the current market by actually buying at those inflated prices. It's gonna be a very cool setup once DDR5 RAM goes back to being affordable, but in the meantime it's just a very expensive adhd pile on my floor xD
Looks great. Grab that 8GB stick and finish the build. You will be very happy you finally did it.
I thought this was going to be about female sheep. Instead, there's a long argument about a ram.
Oooh, thank you for explaining the joke. I was confused why sheep were involved.
Ewe were?
At least they didn't ram the joke down my throat
LOL, that exact model of RAM kicked the bucket in my PC last week. The two sticks died pretty much simultaneously. Thank fuck it was only half of a mismatched set, so my PC can still run on the other half
You shoud definitely build it soon, even if just to test it.
If you don't, it will invariably be your bad luck that a component doesn't work and you are then past the return window...
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