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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I thought about buying a framework 12 for kicks but it's Intel only and for that reason I'm oooout.

[–] mpdarkguy@piefed.world 4 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Intel's laptop CPUs were never bad tho? Is it just a solidarity thing because of the 13th and 14th gen processors frying themselves?

[–] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

AMD fucks Intel hard since the birth of Ryzen CPUs, AMD Ryzen CPUs are more power efficient than intel which is ideal for laptops and Ryzen CPUs are a bit cheaper than with intel, also Ryzen iGPUs are more powerful than intel which is bonus

[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

They're power hungry for about the same performance as AMD. At least the i-series

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago

Buying anything that isn't an x3D CPU at this point is abject stupidity.

Intel CPUs might as well be worthless piles of sand. Hotter slower and higher battery usage.

As far as laptops are concerned Intel has not a single sku worth the sand it's made of.

[–] Damage@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 days ago

That's the reason why I bought a 13 despite coming from multiple touch-screen laptops

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 19 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

AMD marches "against Intel"? Is there some sort of confrontation going on between the 2? Or does this just mean AMD makes good processors and sells better?

[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 32 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I personally just don’t trust Intel. A lot of people just treat them as the default, but if you’ve been following the news for the last few years, there is a lot to be skeptical of quality wise.

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

AMD: "Our partners will fry your expensive CPU on some boards."
INTEL: "Our software will fry your expensive CPU on all boards."

[–] 123@programming.dev 28 points 4 days ago (4 children)

NVIDIA: "Our partners will fry the planet for all!"

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[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

The US government has stake in Intel. Don’t trust them anymore.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago (3 children)

"EndeavourOS 0.07%"

Let's goooo! There are dozens of us!!

[–] vritrahan@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 days ago

Checking in

[–] boomzilla@programming.dev 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Recently tried CachyOS on my HTPC. Couldn't get Sunshine to run. It looked beautiful though and the docs seemed really in-depth. Endeavour (thanks to Arch, I know) is just so stable and fast. Just the right amount of pre-installed stuff like reflector, yay, the firewall-config app for firewalld with sane defaults, nice BTRFS subvolume layout, correct NVidia drivers. Would be nice to have Limine (for BTRFS snapshots) as an option besides SystemD boot and Grub in Calamares but I installed it in addition to SystemD boot. Gaming works tremendously good. Everything else too.

I really can't recall the last time an update went wrong. On both of my machines (one Intel, one AMD, both NVidia).

[–] dil@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Sunshine was pretty effortless on cachyos for me, did you install it using pacman?

[–] boomzilla@programming.dev 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yes AFAIK it is in the extra repo, which I'd always prefer to the AUR. Thing is, I tried Apollo beforehand, as I wanted clipboard support, which was probably only available in the AUR. Maybe that borked something with the install. I could install Sunshine though but Moonlight from my main Endeavor install couldn't make any connection even with opening all the wanted ports in the firewall.

[–] boomzilla@programming.dev 1 points 3 days ago

Don't want to diss CachyOS. They're sure doing tremendous work for the gaming community and all the default themes for the different WMs and DEs look enticing. I'm sure this was a case of PEBKAC.

[–] LievitoPadre@feddit.it 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You need to install CUDA first, if you have a Nvidia card. Limine is already an option when you install the os.

[–] boomzilla@programming.dev 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Thanks. Seems you're correct and Sunshine profits from CUDA when using this NVFBC but it doesn't seem to explicitly depend on it to run. I tried it pretty soon after installing EOS and can't imagine having installed CUDA so early. Last time I explicitly did it was for Ollama.

I just looked on that EOS machine on which Sunshine worked right from the start and no CUDA package is installed but nevertheless nvidia-smi shows CUDA Version 13. This seems to be because the nvidia driver brings the CUDA runtime with it which differs from the big CUDA toolkit. I'll try CachyOS again when I eventually buy an AMD GPU.

I think you meant Cachy when you pointed out Limine is an option while doing automatic partitioning. And yes this worked very good. I meant that Endeavour doesn't offer it at that point in install.

Have a nice week.

[–] LievitoPadre@feddit.it 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You're welcome. I knew about CUDA because I hit my head with it with manjaro. However, I vaguely remember that when I tried in Cachy, it asked for the dependency as well. I think I tried to install with octopi tool though.

Yes I meant Cachy for limine, I didn't know Endeavour didn't do it too.

[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What's your experience with gaming on endeavourOS been? What games do you play? Any issues with graphics or sound?

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Pretty much everything I've tried has worked seamlessly out of the box. Obviously, the same issues crop up as with any other Linux system: you pretty much cannot play kernel level anticheat games, womp womp. I might have installed my video drivers myself, I honestly don't recall, but it's as easy as grabbing them from pacman.

For my particular setup, I'm using an Nvidia card and mostly only use Steam for games, although I have gotten Proton to work with a couple of games outside of Steam.

In case you're new to Linux in general, when I first installed Steam, I noticed I could only play a small fraction of my games and was disheartened, but you just have to turn on the Proton compatibility layer and you're good to go.

I do also have a Windows 11 VM for any compatibility issues, but I honestly haven't booted it up in months.

[–] de_lancre@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (4 children)

all-time high

It's 3.2%

I mean, sure, big headline is cool. But it's 3.2%

[–] addie@feddit.uk 26 points 4 days ago (9 children)

Closing in on 8% if you filter it by "English language only". Chinese speakers overwhelmingly (almost exclusively) use Windows and make up about 30% of all Steam users, which skews the rest-of-world results. And I wouldn't consider 8% of all prospective sales to be a joke, especially since that number only keeps on rising and by the time you've spent a few years writing a game it's likely to be quite a bit more.

https://www.gamingonlinux.com/steam-tracker/

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 days ago

Why stop there? If you filter it by “users not using windows” we can get that number over 90%!

[–] falseWhite@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Massaging the data to meet your desired stats. Like a politician.

Why not exclude even more countries that mostly use windows and then say "99% of steam users are using Linux*"

~*based on users in Afghanistan only~

[–] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Hey! I'll have you know that 100% of steam users * are using linux.

* sample size : me

[–] piranhaconda@mander.xyz 5 points 3 days ago

We should survey the linux_gaming community. That will give us a larger sample size that's definitely representative of the broader trends

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

3.2% on a gaming hardware survey is fucking insane stats for Linux though. Three years ago that wouldn't have been believable.

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

It's 3.2% of Steam Linux installs. The actual number is higher.

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[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I'm not much of a gamer, not because I don't like to game, but because I'm old and have little time for it. That has made Fedora Workstation my preferred desktop/laptop OS for the last 6 years or so. Maybe that's the reason why I just can't understand why people keep putting up with Microsoft's bullshit.

I have tried Endeavour about 4 times over the years, but in trying to 'make it my own' I always end up breaking it badly and come back to Fedora for a stable few months before going on a distro-hop riot all over again. Linux certainly is a lovely drug to be hooked on 😁

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 3 points 3 days ago

I tried Ubuntu first, because I had heard of it, and too many things didn't work. At the time I was still on that other link aggregator platform and the Linux nerds there told me to try Mint and they were right. It just worked and I have happily run that ever since. It does what I do and isn't Microsoft or the overpriced fruit company. I have no urge to distro hop at all. Fussing with my computer isn't fun for me, I just want to use it sometimes. I agree, though, Linux is good and there's something for everyone.

[–] randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I feel you. Ive been going through this loop over and pver again. Ive landed on the fedora based Universal Blue for this reason. Bluefin for my desktop and bazzite for my gaming PCs. Sometimes you just want your system to be stable and get out of your way and i really appreciate thay about fedora.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That was the one Distro that appealed to my wife enough for her to allow me to switch her Windows in her work PC. Now she hates to have to go to her windows laptop to do some taxes shit in our country every month because they only allow excel.

[–] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Doesn't one of the office alternatives do .xlsx? Or at least use the web version of excel?

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Only Office and LibreOffice do, I but the macros used by our tax authority completely break there, so she's left with the excel option alone.

[–] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Go figure, but the web version of excel should work.

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[–] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago

Yes, I've been experimenting with different Linux distros since 2008 and I was pretty skeptical about "Atomic" distros when they first started buzzing around a few years ago.

However, this past year we've had to make the jump to Linux due to windows 11 shenanigans. But let me tell you. She's got Bazzite and I've had to distro hop different arch distros.

But let me tell you, I am incredibly jealous of the amount of things that "just work™️" on her setup. Things that I've had to track down on obscure forums. Avoiding footguns and landmines.

I used to recommend Ubuntu, then it was Linux Mint, and now, I recommend any Atomic distro that fits your purpose.

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)
[–] realitista@lemmus.org 8 points 4 days ago

Full survey with some historical charts here

[–] silt_haddock@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I’ve been putting off switching because of everything I have setup for work, but next week I have a new laptop arriving and I’ll be wiping the pre-installed  windows and chucking probably fedora on it.

Once I have that first one done, I’ll be able to start moving all my others. I have a bunch of Hyper-V VMs that I need to migrate which has been the main cause of my hesitation. 

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Check fan speed volume before and after linux to see how many background AI scrapers were removed lmao.

[–] theyoyomaster@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Sweet, I contributed to both those categories.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago

will valve fix amd pcvr i wonder?

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