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[–] Sv443@sh.itjust.works 77 points 17 hours ago (6 children)

Highly doubt it's worth it in the long run due to electricity costs alone

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 67 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Depends.

Toss the GPU/wifi, disable audio, throttle the processor a ton, and set the OS to power saving, and old PCs can be shockingly efficient.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

You can slow the RAM down too. You don't need XMP enabled if you're just using the PC as a NAS. It can be quite power hungry.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 10 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Eh, older RAM doesn't use much. If it runs close to stock voltage, maybe just set it at stock voltage and bump the speed down a notch, then you get a nice task energy gain from the performance boost.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

There was a post a while back of someone trying to eek every single watt out of their computer. Disabling XMP and running the ram at the slowest speed possible saved like 3 watts I think. An impressive savings, but at the cost of HORRIBLE CPU performance. But you do actually need at least a little bit of grunt for a nas.

At work we have some of those atom based NASes and the combination of lack of CPU, and horrendous single channel ram speeds makes them absolutely crawl. One HDD on its own performs the same as this raid 10 array.

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[–] Damage@feddit.it 17 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

So I did this, using a Ryzen 3600, with some light tweaking the base system burns about 40-50W idle. The drives add a lot, 5-10W each, but they would go into any NAS system, so that's irrelevant. I had to add a GPU because the MB I had wouldn't POST without one, so that increases the power draw a little, but it's also necessary for proper Jellyfin transcoding. I recently swapped the GPU for an Intel ARC A310.

By comparison, the previous system I used for this had a low-power, fanless intel celeron, with a single drive and two SSDs it drew about 30W.

[–] lectricleopard@lemmy.world 10 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Ok, im glad im not the only one that wants a responsive machine for video streaming.

I ran a pi400 with plex for a while. I dont care to save 20W while I wait for the machine to respond after every little scrub of the timeline. I want to have a better experience than Netflix. Thats the point.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 5 points 15 hours ago

Eh, TBH I'd like to consume less power, but I mean, a 30-40W difference isn't going to ruin me or the planet, I've got a rather efficient home all in all.

[–] YerbaYerba@lemmy.zip 3 points 13 hours ago

I have a 3600 in a NAS and it idles at 25w. My mobo luckily runs fine without a GPU. I pulled it out after the initial install.

[–] leftascenter@jlai.lu 13 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

A desktop running a low usage wouldn't consume much more than a NAS, as long as you drop the video card (which wouldn't be running anyways).

Take only that extra and you probably have a few years usage before additional electricty costs overrun NAS cost. Where I live that's around 5 years for an estimated extra 10W.

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[–] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 4 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

I'm still running a 480 that doubles as a space heater (I'm not even joking; I increase the load based on ambient temps during winter)

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I am assuming that’s a GTX 480 and not an RX 480; if so - kudos for not having that thing melt the solder off the heatsink by now! 😅

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[–] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 3 points 13 hours ago
[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

If they're gonna buy a nas anyway, how many years to break even?

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[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 53 points 15 hours ago (7 children)

OK. Science time. Somewhat arbitrary values used, the point is there is a amortization calculation, you'll need to calculate your own with accurate input values.

A PC drawing 100W 24/7 uses 877 kWh@0.15 $131.49 per year.

A NAS drawing 25W 24/7 uses 219 kWh@0.15 $32.87 per year

So, in this hypothetical case you "save" about $100/year on power costs running the NAS.

Assuming a capacity equivalent NAS might cost $1200 then you're better off using the PC you have rather than buying a NAS for 12 years.


This ignores that the heat generated by the devices is desirable in winter so the higher heat output option has additional utility.

[–] brrt@sh.itjust.works 21 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Assuming a capacity equivalent NAS might cost $1200

Either you already have drives and could use them in a new NAS or you would have to buy them regardless and shouldn’t include them in the NAS price.

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[–] SirSamuel@lemmy.world 13 points 12 hours ago

I bought a two bay Synology for $270, and a 20TB hdd for $260. I did this for multiple reasons. The HDD was on sale so I bought it and kept buying things. Also I couldn't be buggered to learn everything necessary to set up a homemade NAS. Also also i didn't have an old PC. My current PC is a Ship of Theseus that I originally bought in 2006.

You're not wrong about an equivalent NAS to my current pc specs/capacity being more expensive. And yes i did spend $500+ on my NAS And yet I also saved several days worth of study, research, and trial and error by not building my own.

That being said, reducing e-waste by converting old PCs into Jellyfin/Plex streaming machines, NAS devices, or personal servers is a really good idea

[–] Armand1@lemmy.world 9 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

In the UK the calculus is quite different, as it's £0.25/kWh or over double the cost.

Also, an empty Synology 4-bay NAS can be gotten for like £200 second hand. Good enough if you only need file hosting. Mine draws about 10W compared to an old Optiplex that draws around 60W.

With that math using the NAS saves you 1.25 pence per hour. Therefore the NAS pays for itself in around about 2 years.

[–] Auth@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago

my gaming pc runs at like 50w idle and only draws a ton of power if its being used for something. It would be more accurate to consider a PC to be 1.75x more power than a NAS but then account for the cost of buying a NAS. I'd say NAS would probably take 2-4 years to pay off depending on regional power prices.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 5 points 5 hours ago

This ignores that the heat generated by the devices is desirable in winter so the higher heat output option has additional utility.

But the heat is a negative in the summer. So local climate might tip the scales one way or the other.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 3 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

... 100W? Isn't that like a rally bygone era? CPUs of the past decade can idle at next to nothing (like, there isn't much difference between an idling i7/i9 and a Pentium from the same era/family).

Or are we taking about arm? (Sry, I don't know much about them.)

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[–] handsoffmydata@lemmy.zip 35 points 12 hours ago

If your PC has 32gb of RAM or more throw it away (in my trash bin) immediately.

[–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 26 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

And as usual everyone is saying NAS, but talking about servers with a built in NAS.

I'm not saying you can't run your services on the same machine as your NAS, I'm just confused why every time there's a conversation about NASs it's always about what software it can run.

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[–] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Nah. I dissagree. My dedicated NAS system consumes around 40W idling and is very small sized machine. My old PC would utilize 100W idling and is ATX-sized case. Of course I can use my old PC as a NAS, but these two are different category devices.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I want to reduce wasteful power consumption.

But I also desire ECC for stability and data corruption avoidance, and hardware redundancy for failures (Which have actually happened!!)

Begrudgingly I'm using dell rack mount servers. For the most part they work really well, stupid easy to service, unified remote management, lotssss of room for memory, thick PCIe lane counts, stupid cheap 2nd hand RAM, and stable.

But they waste ~100 watts of power per device though... That stuff ads up, even if we have incredibly cheap power.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago

My main application server is a middling office desktop computer from 2011. Runs dozens of services without a sweat.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

My NAS draws about 25w (without drives). Show me an old PC with 6 3.5” drive bays that draws 25w.

[–] lectricleopard@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

At idle or under normal load? Im tempted to get the killawatt out.

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[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I've got a 12VDC Mini PC as my NAS/Jellyfin server with 6 SSD's and no monitor that idles around 30watts and runs entirely off solar. It ain't fast but it does everything I need it to do and costs zero dollars to run.

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[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 6 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

My old PC locks up every 4 to 48 hours. It would make a terrible NAS.

[–] ScoopMcPoops@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

My pc did that when my almost 10 year old SSD with my OS started to die. Switched it out and haven't had an issue since.

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[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 6 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I somehow doubt that.

My last desktop PC has been retasked as an HTPC. The CPU in it requires a graphics card for the system to POST, it's currently mounted in a SFF case with barely room for two 2.5" drives, so it would either make for a shitty, difficult to service, bulky for what it does, power inefficient NAS, or I'd have to buy a new case and CPU.

My current machine is in an mATX mini-tower, there's room for hard disks and the 7700X has integrated graphics so I could haul the GPU out, but it's still kind of bulky for what you'd get.

So I'm gonna keep my Synology in service for a little while longer, then build a NAS from scratch selecting components that would be good for that purpose.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 10 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

This is my rig, I already bought 20 30TB disks, how do I proceed?

collapsed inline media

[–] BrazenSigilos@ttrpg.network 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

First choose a version of linux to install on it, then you can proceed.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 4 points 10 hours ago

Atm it's running Proxmox, but I'll go bare metal with a fresh install of Hannah Montana Linux, I want to do things proper this time!

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[–] linkinkampf19@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

And of course I see this after I bought (and received) a miniPC. Picked up a"beefier" n305 unit with 16GB and a 256GB NVMe, as I wanted some headroom in case I have loftier goals. So far have have horrible luck with it in the first 3-4 hours of attempting install of some Linux flavor. Started with Proxmox, as I want to run LXCs and containers of HA, PiHole, and Jellyfin, and there are some boots where I can't even get past the installer. Booted up a LiveISO of Mint, and even that froze after a few minutes. Reading around about possible NIC driver issues, C-states, temperature throttling, etc... and what a headache so far. I can't be sure it's the device, me, or the images. /vent

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[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago (5 children)

How about a Raspberry Pi? I've got one (Raspberry Pi 400) running my Home Automation setup with a couple USB 3.0 ports. Was thinking there's gotta be some add-ons for Home Assistant to put some external storage to good use.

Don't need anything too fancy. Just looking for some on-site backup and maybe some media storage

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

For backups it will be fine. Same for media storage. But if you want media streaming from the device (like plex) then you'll want something better.

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[–] MudMan@fedia.io 4 points 16 hours ago

I mean... my old PC burns through 50-100W, even at idle and even without a bunch of spinning hard drives. My actual NAS barely breaks that under load with all bays full.

I could scrounge up enough SATA inputs on it to make for a decent NAS if I didn't care about that, and I could still run a few other services with the spare cycles, but... maybe not the best use of power.

I am genuinely considering turning it into a backup box I turn on under automation to run a backup and then turn off after completion. That's feasible and would do quite well, as opposed to paying for a dedicated backup unit.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

My old PC and laptop are too loud to use for anything really. It‘s unfortunate but the noise is too much.

[–] leftascenter@jlai.lu 15 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Clean the PC and change the fans. Fans make noise when old.

[–] Dima@feddit.uk 7 points 16 hours ago

And repaste it if you're going this far

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