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Government brain drain will haunt US after DOGE abruptly terminated.

After Donald Trump curiously started referring to the Department of Government Efficiency exclusively in the past tense, an official finally confirmed Sunday that DOGE “doesn’t exist.”

Talking to Reuters, Office of Personnel Management (OPM) Director Scott Kupor confirmed that DOGE—a government agency notoriously created by Elon Musk to rapidly and dramatically slash government agencies—was terminated more than eight months early. This may have come as a surprise to whoever runs the DOGE account on X, which continued posting up until two days before the Reuters report was published.

As Kupor explained, a “centralized agency” was no longer necessary, since OPM had “taken over many of DOGE’s functions” after Musk left the agency last May. Around that time, DOGE staffers were embedded at various agencies, where they could ostensibly better coordinate with leadership on proposed cuts to staffing and funding.

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[–] joyjoy@lemmy.zip 49 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

DOGE saw a 250lb body builder and said "Lose some weight, fatso!"

[–] MarkAB@mastodon.world 29 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

@joyjoy @MicroWave As an aside, I knew a bodybuilder some years ago, totally jacked, like 3% body fat, all natural. Couldn’t get a life insurance policy because his BMI was something like 39% and he was classified as morbidly obese.

[–] punkfungus@sh.itjust.works 28 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I know this is a funny jab at BMI, which is an extremely flawed way of determining anything, but actually the risks of being a competitive bodybuilder with single digit body fat percentage are remarkably similar to being morbidly obese. Being natty certainly makes it safer but being jacked and being healthy aren't the same thing. The people you see on stage at bodybuilding comps are a short step away from needing admittance to hospital.

[–] lectricleopard@lemmy.world 16 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Particularly on stage, or leading up to a competition.

I had a natty buddy too. Had to lock himself out of the house and sleep in a tent so he wouldn't cave and eat in the middle of the night. Then same with water to get the paper thin skin and vascularity.

They are starving and dehydrated.

[–] punkfungus@sh.itjust.works 7 points 8 hours ago

Yep. To paraphrase the wise words of Casually Explained:

Adrenaline junkies like skydivers often say something like "I love it so much I'd die for my sport". In contrast, with bodybuilding dying is the sport.

[–] human@slrpnk.net 39 points 12 hours ago

By June, Congress was drawn, largely down party lines, on whether to codify the “DOGE process”—rapidly firing employees, then quickly hiring back whoever was needed

To consider this as an intentional "process" a person has to have zero empathy.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 36 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

I've seen it first hand. I work as a consultant in public sector. Every where we go now the teams are crippled because people took the buyouts and left. Network teams that were 7 people reduced to 2 that are barely keeping things together. I'm sure NetApp, IBM, Microsoft, etc... love selling all these consulting hours now.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 16 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I'd bet some of those ex government employees are back doing the same job as IBM contractors for 3x the cost.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 12 points 7 hours ago

Yep, exactly. That's DOGE efficiency.

[–] bluemellophone@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago

I was at a military industry conference a month or so ago, with several flag level officers giving talks. The total amount of lost years of experience and senior leadership in the military and intelligence agencies is staggering. It is going to take generations to recover.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 33 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Duh it was nothing but a cover for the grift of billions of dollars.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 2 minutes ago

A grift of access to confidential government data. Data is the new gold.

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 11 hours ago

the stupid thing is, dumpy mcshitpants has increased the national debt by $2T in less than a year. they haven't saved shit.

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 25 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

DOGE couldn't have possibly worked, ever. I think everybody knows a situation where there's an employee who is contributing far more than their own manager knows. So the point is that even if you asked everybody's immediate managers to decide who to lay off, you'd have huge mistakes being made.

A central bureaucracy like DOGE is so much farther removed from that situation that it's not even funny. There is simply no way that it has the expertise to conduct layoffs, and it was obvious from the beginning. Companies facing layoffs know that they will lose unreplaceable employees, but they have to do so due to immediate financial pressures, nothing like what the government faces.

So, DOGE was either a stupid idea created by absolute morons, or it was a cover for bad actors who never intended to do what they claimed. Or a little from column a, and a little from column b.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 19 points 9 hours ago

Also, the methodology was awful. Offer buyouts for people to leave. That means the people who are the best at their job and most confident in finding a new job left.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 18 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Vertelleus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Were they hired back at the same pay rate?

I don't see anything in the article, or did miss it?

[–] velindora@lemmy.cafe 10 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I hope they fucking held out for more… But I’m sure it will not be as awesome as that

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 4 points 6 hours ago

If they didn't demand a higher salary then they did something wrong.

[–] acme401@lemmy.world 12 points 4 hours ago

Musk is a Nazi & should be deported.

[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 8 points 7 hours ago

It'll be a good day when seal team six is bin laden-ing this mangled cock ass hat.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Efficiency-obsessed weirdos don't understand redundancies. All they see are inefficiencies, and think people can just make up for them in harder times by just "working harder", which for these weirdos just become a new baseline for even more cuts.

[–] Flisty@mstdn.social 3 points 2 hours ago

@ZILtoid1991 @MicroWave the Tories did that to the NHS here and then we had a pandemic.

[–] don@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 hours ago

Department Of Government Excrement