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[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Ya evolution is pretty cool.

And on that note the human physiology sacrifices quite a bit for its intelligence.

For example the reason humans come out as babies is because if they came out with a full sized brains they'd kill the mother!

It's all about the most proficient use of energy.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

"Or so I've heard"

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

yeah i mean ofc if you also put everyone in the world that that datacentre is serving in a human datacentre, I'm sure it'd also consume tons of power (in food)

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 12 hours ago

1 gram of cocain equals roughly 150 grams of CO2 emissions due to production and shipping etc, plus the effect wears of very quickly. Cocain Als destroys your nostrils, it's really, really bad. I would advice amphetamine instead. Can also be taken orally, for instance in the medicinal form of dexamphetamine. Another side effect is that you aren't hungry anymore so you don't need the Twix. Just dexamphetamine and you are able to achieve your goals better like becoming a dictator (like Hitler, he got daily shots of amphetamine) or invade France if you want (the German army had amphetamine pills which helped them advance into France day and night. The French assumed they would stop during the night to rest but since they didn't, the French greatly miscalculated and were completely overrun. Thats why you should use amphetamine kids). It also really helps with ADHD to focus on things and think clearly.

[–] TomMasz@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

Valid, but not the first two things that I'd come up with.

[–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Compare 1 human to one LLM session, instead of one human to all LLMs on Earth, and you’ll see that we’re way less efficient

[–] BlueMagma@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Also, one human brain training takes feeding for years before it can do useful things.

[–] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Does that actually add up, though?

Google released stats recently that the median Gemini prompt consumes about 0.24 watt hours of electricity.

For humans performing knowledge based labor, how many prompts is that worth per hour? Let's say that the average knowledge worker is about as productive as one good prompt every 5 minutes, so 12 per hour or 96 per 8-hour workday.

Let's also generously assume that about 25% of the prompts' output are actually useful, and that the median is actually close to the mean (in real life, I would expect both to be significantly worse for the LLM, but let's go with those assumptions for now).

So on the one hand, we have a machine doing 384 prompts (75% of which are discarded), for 92 watt hours of energy, which works out to be 80 kilocalories.

On the other hand, we have a human doing 8 hours of knowledge work, probably burning about 500 calories worth of energy during that sedentary shift.

You can probably see that the specific tasks can be worked through so that some classes of workers might be worth many, many LLM prompts, and some people might be worth more or less energy.

But if averages are within an order of magnitude, we should see that plenty of people are still more energy efficient than the computers. And plenty aren't.

[–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

You completely forgot that workers only work one time the shift per day. If you account for the total energy required to do a project, and assume that a human would do alone X in 5 days, then wouldn’t it be better to use prompting as well, which would theoretically, in this model, make X feasible in 2.5 days? Sure, the non-work calories consumption of a human is inevitable, but when strictly talking about productivity, you can make an individual be 2x more productive for a lot less than their daily calories consumption

I however appreciate your analysis and the time you took to write this. It’s really nice to see a comparison. I would have imagined it consumed a lot less than that.

If you compare this to letting a desktop computer run though… it’s negligible. I know mine uses about 80W when idle

[–] axexrx@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago
[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

actual intelligence

You have a lot of faith in me.

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

At this point, I feel like they actually excel at classifying people by political views and all the red number as covered by spy agencies... call it a conspiracy, but its my shot in the dark

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Isn't it more like they're comparing all the hamburgers and everything else you have eating since you were born?

That's what they're doing with AI enegry usages isn't it? I thought it was including the training which is where the greatest costs come from vs just daily running.

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