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[–] zd9@lemmy.world 45 points 3 days ago (1 children)

These fine folks are the direct reason that many millions or even billions will suffer. In every article like this please save and share, because they need to face justice for selling out humanity so that their next quarterly earnings can go up a little.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 3 points 2 days ago

Funny thing is that the word "fink" is itself a scathing insult: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fink

A bit of nominative determinism perhaps.

[–] santa@sh.itjust.works 27 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Truth is the enemy of politics.

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

*of capitalism.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 24 points 2 days ago

Because extremely rich people have gotten extremely much richer and they still want more

They dont give a shit if the world blows up. They think they have money, they think their money will save them, they think they can build their zombie fortress and they'll be fine

They won't, of course but that is besides the point

Then here are the tech bros who think that just another datacenter will for sure give us real AI that will magically solve all our problems tomorrow, just give us a few billion dollars more, it will surely work this time bro! And politicians, the idiots that they all are, actually listen to that, and believe it.

Then there are the dumb votes who hear climate change and hear "tax raising" because of course they're right because instead of taking the billions from the billionaire donors, politicians will just have the poor pay for whatever fix, just as we, the people had to get rid of straws because that will fix it, just as we the people will have to start paying.kore for food and and and...

Instead we need only one fucking politician in charge who is willing to cap net worth at 10 million dollars. After that, all your income goes to taxes. Companies must be capped at a billion dollars networth. Anything over that, 100% to tax.

THAT will give a good income that can be used for a great socialist framework with free healthcare, free housing, free education, free all the basics, maybe even UBI. THAT will give governments the money to invest in climate change but also invest in thousands more smaller companies that can innovate instead of resting on brand recognition.

Fuck the rich and powerful, they must ALL be stripped down to normal levels of we want to survive

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I've seen like half a dozen articles asking questions like this in the last week.

Money.

The answer is money.

The answer has always been money.

The answer will always be money.

There is no point in asking this question because everyone already knows it's money.

[–] Insekticus@aussie.zone 1 points 1 day ago

And anyone that thinks money isnt the answer, is probably financially or emotionally invested in not seeing that money is the answer.

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago

Billionaires. That's why.

[–] velindora@lemmy.cafe 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

If only it was just humanity, it would be fine. A dead end species. We're taking everything with us, which is the real crime.

[–] velindora@lemmy.cafe 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well, the planet will bounce back without us. Sure, it won’t be the same… but a billion years ago was pretty different from now.

Great Oxygenation Event: Around 2.4 billion years ago, a type of photosynthetic microorganism—cyanobacteria, often called blue-green algae—began producing large amounts of oxygen as a byproduct of photosynthesis. At the time, Earth’s atmosphere had almost no oxygen, and this new oxygen was actually toxic to most existing life. The result was it killed most of the life on earth including itself, and new life forms adapted to oxygen.

So in a few billion more years, whatever intelligent life pops up will look back and think of us as just another algae problem.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

David Kipping introduced me to the idea that the window of opportunity for intelligent life may be far smaller than we used to think. It's a companion to the Rare Earth hypothesis of having so many variables that MIGHT need to exist to make things work, but assuming all conditions are good for what we consider hospitable, how long a planet has before the star changes and how soon basic life starts is not that long cosmically.

Simply put, new life after whatever this climate run stabilized to won't have a billion years before the Sun begins to change. Not turn into a red giant or dwarf, those are far off still, but it will begin its path towards those long before the actual event, and conditions here will worsen for a teeming biosphere.

To quote "Hamilton", life only gets probably one shot. Maybe two or three if it's fast, but we can probably count a few of the mass extinctions that set things back for that.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

If humans didn’t have sufficient numbers and intelligence to take advantage of the stable climate of the last hundred thousand years we’d either be extinct or hunter gatherers.

Now that we’ve used up most of the accessible fossil fuels another species won’t be able to industrialize, especially in the next billion years before the sun starts to warm the earth beyond habitability.

Apathetic bloody planet. I’ve no sympathy at all.

[–] velindora@lemmy.cafe 1 points 3 days ago

Then there is no point, and we should probably not care that much.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

So what you’re saying is we’re evolutionary boomers

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 15 points 2 days ago

Leadershit: “Why aren’t people ~~cranking out new victims~~ reproducing anymore?”

Younger generation: “Fix this shit or we are canceling the next generation.”

Leadershit: (LotR Isildur meme) “No”

[–] shittydwarf@piefed.social 14 points 3 days ago

Billionaires

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 days ago
[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The real question is what are 99.9999% of the humans that can't decide about this going to do about this?

The politicians obviously don't give a shit, they had well over a 100 years (not even kidding , earth warming due to CO2 was already know about in the 1899s somewhere) to know about this and do something about this.

They didn't do anything, being more interested in their donors and being reelected

The billionaires literally are spending a million times the amount of CO2 that a normal person does

So what is the rest of us going to do while they literally are setting fire to the only world in the fucking universe that ever had life, as far as we know anyway?

I mean seriously, how am I bit supposed to see then as a threat to the survival of the human race, or for that matter, my own? My wife's? My children?

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago

End billionaires by any and all means

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No one's willing to go first and put themselves at a competitive disadvantage. It needs to be uniform action. And without the US willing to participate it'll be as slow as molasses.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago

This is the reason that every billionaire rails against a scary "new world order" or "one world government" or just the UN doing its job... They don't want to actually be held to anything.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 days ago

Because people are selfish assholes.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Cause we are facing global economic hardship, which is partially due to climate change.

This is the sad part, most people’s priority is their standard of living so when economic hardship happens, they double down on short term thinking.

This is why climate action needs to go hand in hand with economic reform so most people’s life gets better as we go towards solar punk.

In theory the rich who have horded all that wealth could benefit humanity if that wealth becomes our piggy bank to fix things.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 1 points 2 days ago

There is work to be done rebuilding infrastructure to battle climate change. It would be a massive jobs program, but we have reached an era where governments are not allowed to do public works in the public interest, amd since their is no profit to be made in doing the right thing, we must instead all suffer.

[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

There will be movement after the first half a billion people starve to death, and when the environment forces another billion or so to move.

[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 days ago

It's very very simple.

Tragedy of the Commons.

If you don't know what that is, that's all you need to read to understand why free markets will always lead to collapse and extinction.

[–] hayvan@feddit.nl 5 points 2 days ago
[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago

If someone gets killed on the highway, in a traffic accident, they'll build an overpass for people's "safety", but after the fact. I think this can apply to global warming. Fake money got in the way as well (It's just too darned much money to save this planet).

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Nothing a global guillotine movement won’t solve

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

Because money is like a drug. Thats the only explanation that makes sense to me as to why rich people prioritize getting more money when they already have more than they'll ever need. It is an addiction. We should be treating wealth hoarding as a mental illness.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Because some people want to use climate as a weapon.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 2 points 2 days ago

I think the main reason is that we're screwed. After the covid work from home recession, all companies want to make money (extract worked hours from you, the workers, and convert that into dollars). To do so, they need products for you to make so that other people can buy them. Unfortunately, that requires plastic, fuels and various contaminants. So there, we are driving contamination thru the roof so companies can get all the money they lost tenfold. That accelerated the "we're screwed deadline", which is now in the past.

From some reading, I recall that Jewish people in the "we're screwed" trains, owned by tiny black mustash (big fat Orange's uncle), would totally make love to their partners oh the way to the gas chambers. That's the euphoric situation we are in. We have given up and are just living the moment. As you might remember, the walls of the ovens had scratches. That's next. We'll all try desperately one day to fix this before perishing quickly after. But we are all still here. Its possible that our survivors will be around. All 6 or 7 of them.

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