No shit? Neither do the rest of us.
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Trump says Ukraine has ‘zero gratitude’ for peace plan amid international talks
(www.theguardian.com)
I'd say, lots of shit in this plan.
Fuck you Trump...I'd gladly give the 200 billion you gave the Nazis at ice to real Patriots in Ukraine
We’ve even half of that, the war would be over
Thank you president Trump for this amazing peace plan. Many people are saying this is the GRESTEST PEACE PLAN in the history of the world. All of the greatest world leaders came to me and said "Sir, this is bigger than the Treaty of Verseye". They said I should win TWO Noble Peace Prizes for this.
Then they all clapped and started crying.
Then the women stripped naked and snogged him because he is so seriously irresistible to women and they were so in awe of his peacemaking
"Make peace to me, Mr. President" they all cried!
Not gonna lie, "Treaty of Verseye" sent me.
Its the attention to details.
An aille for detail, if you will
Every single European leader except Orban is super annoyed with Trump over this joke of a peace plan.
There are pretty strong voices that the trying to sweet talk Trump has failed, it's time we tell him the truth.
I really really hope European leaders will do that, and also explain to him how he undermines NATO and paves the way for China to do the same as Russia.
Trump may not give a shit, but the American politicians who still have a shred of sense should.
As it is we cannot use USA in NATO for anything, and we cannot rely on USA even as a for profit weapons supplier.
USA tax Ukraine and Europe 10% extra for weapons exports to profit off the current situation, and they have given zero aid since Trump took over in January.
USA is not an ally, they are a leech on former allies now. USA is not working for democracy but against it.
I am so disgusted with USA I don't have words. And I don't mean just Trump, but America as a whole! Because it is America as a nation that is letting itself be represented by this moronic malignant narcissist.
I know there are good Americans, but they are not the ones deciding things, and they are 100% ineffective in curbing the damage of trump.
Agreed. If Americans really didn't want Trump in the white house they would have all gone to the polls in 2024, instead of staying home or believing the narrative that Biden/Harris were fully responsible for gas prices and cost of living issues. The truth is that since Reagan, they have been brainwashed into voting against their own interests by a deliberately underfunded education system, to the point where a majority cannot read as well as an 11 year old everywhere else in the world. The dumber they get the more votes the GOP gets.
Oh dear the demented rapist remembered no one loves him again.
frozen Russian assets would be [...] partly given to US investors.
This is why Trump likes this plan.
That's like a principal letting the bully keep all the lunch money they stole from someone, let the bully chose what lunch they're allowed to buy in future, in exchange for the bully pinky promising to stop bullying the victim, and then acting surprised that the victim doesn't fall on their knees in gratitude for this amazing deal
Similarly, Trump hasn't shown much gratitude to the country for forcing the release of the Epstein files.
DID YOU EVER SAY THANK YOU???!?
Yes, actually I've thanked the US on numerous...
WHERE IS YOUR FUCKING SUIT?!?!?!
It is not a peace plan; it is a piece plan, as in Russia gets a piece of Ukraine plan!
Come on guys, I thought this was obvious at this point.
I'd love a major news outlet to write the headline
"Trump says Ukraine has 'zero gratitude' for his unconditional surrender plan"
Jesus Christ, Grandpa is not well.
“Yes, thank you so much for trying to fuck Ukraine in the ass…”
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