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How the Turkistan Islamic Party, Turkey, NATO and Julani’s “new Syria” are being positioned to threaten Xinjiang and the Belt and Road.

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[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The word Jihad gets used like this a lot but it's not very accurate. It means "one who undertakes a meritorious struggle" which means everything from a monk who fights earthly desires to a crusader who fights enemies of the Quran.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

To a rebellion against the machines.

[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

In reference to the Butlerian Jihad for the uninitiated. It was referenced as an event in the 1965 Dune series and often attributed to Samuel Butler's 1863 essay "Darwin among the machines".

It's sort of become its own trope in scifi in the same ways a Dyson Sphere has,

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I get how they threaten China's efforts in foreign countries, but as long as China keeps developing the region and allowing self-governance, how much of a threat are ETIM terrorists? Is there historical example of terrorists sucessfully recruiting from upwardly-mobile folk who feel represented by their government?

[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

An autocratic state allowing self governance? Like they did with Hong Kong and Taiwan? How about Tibet, how are things going in Tibet? My money is Indonesia being the next big example.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Those people have significant autonomy, and far, far more agency than before the CPC. Hong Kong was run by a council mostly appointed by the crown and major businesses, Tibet's people were literal slaves to the theocratic ruling class. Now they both elect representitives to send to congresses, whom enact their will.

What would Indonesia be an example of? I'm not too familiar beyond the political mass killings in the 60s and their actions in West Papua and Timor Leste.

[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world 1 points 4 days ago

Before the CCP existed maybe but definitely not before the CCP took over in recent years. Indonesia will be the next to be colonized by China, they're already militarily reliant so it's only a matter of time to escalate from there. I'm sure Chinese agents are already looking at every option to overthrow the current government. After that, China will be helping the Pakistani militants attack India from the west and promote radicals and dissidents from the north east, looking for an opportunity to carve out a slice.