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[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 170 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Many people on the left do have guns, but they also have other things to go along with guns: self-control and a sense of decency.

[–] WhiteRabbit_33@lemmy.world 73 points 1 day ago (8 children)

I'd add on that most on the left have also studied enough to know that people love martyrs and that very few deaths of public figures would substantially change our society.

I'd describe myself as a raging leftist, and I can count on one hand the people whose assassination I think would result in beneficial change for our society even with any blowback of support and counter assassinations. MTG has never been close to that level.

Dismantling systems of oppression and changing the way people think is far more effective.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I agree. MTG is small potatoes. If she dropped dead tomorrow of natural causes (or an eagle dropping a turtle on her head) it would be fun for a moment but change nothing.

Hell the way things are going if Trump drops dead tomorrow it won't shake things up long term. (And they probably already have contingencies for that. Given his deteriorating mind and body he won't live that much longer).

I've learned to not underestimate Trump's position in his movement. Him dying will absolutely lead to a power struggle as everyone else in the party is weak by design. It's why Greene is gone, why a charisma black hole is VP, and why so much of his staff are incompetent jackasses. The biggest weakness to the current fascist movement has always been their reliance on Trump.

I've always hated this "puppet Trump" narrative. Yes he's easily influenced by people who know how he works, but he also has great intuition for politics that no one else in the Republican party has demonstrated. He's also more convinced than ever that listening to establishment types and measured voices will make him weak, and he has few of those around anymore anyways. As he gets more desperate or faces more opposition, he'll get more dangerous and unhinged.

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They know the price of guns.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Many people on the left also lack those qualities. See the Bolsheviks, the IRA, ETA. Red Army Faction, et al

[–] joelfromaus@aussie.zone 123 points 1 day ago (4 children)

But many people kept saying BoTh sIDeS around a certain persons death.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 84 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Yeah, fuck those people. And fuck Charlie Kirk.

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

From the Mossad

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

Right through his neck hole!

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's some things that both sides can generally agree on. Brian Thomson, for example. Seems the only people who had a problem with his death had >$10 million stock portfolios.

I had no idea who Brian Thompson was before he was shot, but he got what was coming to him. Also he was on his way to an insider trader fraud thingie. White collar criminal doing white collar criminal shit.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

They were trying very, very hard to pretend that was a leftist attack so they could justify all the things they wanted to do themselves.

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

The right are nothing but hypocrites and any criticism they have can be ignored. Obama wearing a tan suit drove them literally insane with how "unprofessional" it was. They can fuck off.

[–] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 60 points 2 days ago

You wrestle with pigs you’re going to get shit on ya. Sorry babe.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The right has been terrorizing this country with impunity for over 100years

Longer. While modern fascism is a 20th century invention the mentality that lead to it is much older.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Violence is the basis for all hierarchical authority, which is every modern day imperialist country.

You either bend to their order or they will engage in violence against you until you concede obedience.

Some have made concessions to those of the lower classes but fundamentally they still hold all the power of authority over who is or isn't "entitled" to access of basic necessities. If we ever buck that authority, the state will always engage in systemic violence against us to maintain that authority.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner.

The only distinction is where a society draws the line on when violence can begin, and against who, and why.

[–] WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's beyond politics... It's a legal modern mafia. Wake up. There is no democracy.

there really isn't... Why are people denying that truth so hard...? It's like it's out of fear of reality. Overcome that fear so you build modern life in honest reality because if your reality is not honest you are only building a faulty foundation.

[–] mvirts@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I wanted a 3rd party, just not like this.

[–] AngularViscosity@piefed.social 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You get an alt alt right party. A finger on the ~~money's~~ monkey's paw curls.

E: whoops 😅

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

You might be tempted to change it cause of the typo, but this is more apt

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[–] don@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Someone got smacked by the FAFO principle.

[–] AngularViscosity@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Not hard enough, I'd say. A judge's house was burnt down recently. They've gone easy on her.

Wasn't she the bitch who carried a gun outside AOC's office? Or was that someone else.

[–] Pistcow@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago
[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 12 hours ago

she will be retiring in januarary, she saw no path foward for senate, since trump snubbed him, and the gop pratically abanonded her.

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