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[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 115 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (3 children)

That's fine. I'll ask my wife and her friends, a mix of NPs, PAs, and RNs, if they recognize the current administration as professional.

Answer will be no and they can kick rocks.

This is also clearly be design to cut peoples access to education as well as reduce the total number of healthcare workers. A double whammy.

[–] joekar1990@lemmy.world 44 points 7 hours ago

It's also targeting fields that are usually a majority of women on top of the access.

[–] jwiggler@slrpnk.net 40 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

My partner is a nurse here in the Northeast. Unfortunately a lot of her coworkers are Trumpies.

Most of them are practically disengaged from politics and only follow their (male) partner's political beliefs. If they're from one of the surrounding rural (white and low income) areas, the chances they're like this are higher. Not shockingly, a fair amount of their partners are cops.

It's strange and disheartening to hear about nurses she works with who flaunt that they won't get the covid vaccine, who denigrate patients with substance abuse disorder, who verbalize that they would rather not treat a trans person, and who treat black and brown folks like a different species. But it's definitely a trend in nursing culture up here.

Its especially difficult for my partner who chose this path in large part because of her acute sense of empathy. The state of healthcare is just bad here.

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 hours ago

slams buzzer ER nurse.

[–] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago

No no, see, they're part of the demographic that's predestined for success because this is their country, so it'll all work out for them, no matter how many things this administration does to strip them of their title, success, income, benefits, rights, and dignity.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Nurse Practitioners, Pennsylvanias, and Registered Nurses? 🤔

[–] reptar@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

No Pants, Partially Attired, and Rarely Nude

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago

So basically most female Wimbledon contestants?

[–] greyhathero@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

I assume they mean physicians assistant

[–] Entropy_Pyre@lemmy.ca 57 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

“The department determined that the following programs were professional: medicine, pharmacy, dentistry, optometry, law, veterinary medicine, osteopathic medicine, podiatry, chiropractic, theology and clinical psychology. This meant that physician assistants, nurse practitioners, physical therapists and audiologist were excluded from the list.”

Theology and clinical psychology? I didn’t even know that was a career choice, let alone one I could take out a $200,000 loan for.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 55 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

lol chiropractor and theology are professionals.

[–] raman_klogius@ani.social 29 points 7 hours ago

Quacklifications by a quack administration

[–] Hazor@lemmy.world 11 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

So my eyes, feet, and soul need professional care, but not my ears? Wild.

[–] utopianfiat@lemmy.world 52 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

Fellas, is it good when I stop funding nursing education in the middle of a nurse shortage

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 18 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

They want us to die. Nothing they've demonstrated has shown anything but a deep, willful satisfaction in making American citizens suffer and a desire to kill off anyone who isn't a member of the administration.

I hope you dipshit Lemmy leftist kids are prepared to actually work to vote people out in the coming midterms and following 2028 election, and not get lost down some third-party fantasy or hold tight for "the revolution" to start.

[–] Seaguy05@lemmy.world 11 points 2 hours ago

They want to reduce the needed learning so they can pay people less to do the same job but pass it off as some streamlining process to address shortages. They're still going to charge the same for care but pay less to those who provide it.

Taking an actual problem and looking to address it from a capitalist view point so that line always goes up.

[–] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Is it good when i, a crumbling octogenarian vote away all the systems keeping me tethered to this mortal form?

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 7 minutes ago

Making nursing school less affordable will affect the number of nurses in like 4? 6? Years. You as an octogenarian may not expect to need care that far in the future

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 3 points 55 minutes ago

Just as good as deporting immigrant truckers during a ongoing trucker shortage. Big brains in the White House, clearly.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 25 points 5 hours ago

I want to stop being surprised but I can't imagine the sheer depth of inhumanity and monstrosity of these people, and I am someone who grew up with a lifelong hatred of Nazis and their mythic-levels of cruelty.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 15 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

When the MAGA shit stains visit the ER, I hope the first nurse they see is a full blown liberal.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 19 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Why do you want them to have qualified care?
No give them a MAGA nurse, and tell the nurse it's a liberal, and let them eat each other.

[–] baldingpudenda@lemmy.world 4 points 49 minutes ago

They gonna get saline instead of actual meds. Patient is gonna hobble out cause the lib nurse is gonna poison them with covid boosters and Tylenol.

[–] Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world 8 points 1 hour ago

So it's better than that now right? Right??

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago

This is misgovernance in the extreme, but the following is not the best quote to support that point, emphasis mine:

One nurse posted through the IVs By The Seas TikTok account, a clinic offering mobile IV hydration and aesthetic services in New Jersey: "10 years of schooling... $210k in student loan debt... 15 years of ER and Trauma experience which included preventing physicians from making error at 3 a.m. and now... my degree isn't considered a professional degree. Cool."

It’s cool that they have a nurse doing that, but hangover cures and spa treatments don’t seem like a great use for those ten years of schooling (now, the ER and trauma experience is obviously valuable). No shade to her, and I completely understand that an entire career working as an ER and trauma nurse would be demoralizing, but this is a perfect snippet for people who support rolling reimbursement back to quote to show that it’s not really needed.

[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 5 points 51 minutes ago

But seriously though…. Thank god we don’t have that genocide suportin’ Kamala tho, right?

/s

[–] Sunshine@piefed.ca 4 points 5 hours ago

Time to move to Canada!

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 1 points 9 minutes ago

It’s an attack on women. Nursing has historically been one of the only accepted paths for women to make a living wage. It’s an equivalent wage to the construction or police profession that is typically male dominated. I expect to see a lot of attacks on women’s ability to be self sufficient in the coming years. Subjugation and forced birth is the goal.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 11 minutes ago* (last edited 11 minutes ago) (1 children)

Actually not sure how I feel about that. They simply classified it for the same caps on student loans as the rest of us, rather than the higher one for roles like doctors.

Both caps are bad, for all of us. Our college education rates are already far too low, and now we’re trying to make college more unaffordable?

But I guess I assumed a nurse’s education was similar to a four year degree, although I don’t know. Is it not? The nurse they quoted claimed 15 years of college: surely that can’t be normal. Isn’t that more than doctors get?

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 1 points 7 minutes ago

There’s a difference between an LPN, an RN, etc. Some nurses do have doctorates, which yeah, might be about the same amount of education that a doctor typically gets.

There’s a perception that nurses are “lesser” than doctors - but nursing is fundamentally a different skill set.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social -1 points 52 minutes ago* (last edited 52 minutes ago)

Amateur Degree. Gotta go full doctor if you wanna be pro.