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[–] ninthant@lemmy.ca 103 points 1 day ago (17 children)

I’ll beat this drum again: I would fully support a program where we exchange equal numbers of MAGA loyalists in Canada for trained doctors, engineers, and tradespeople looking to escape fascism.

The Americans have already shown interest in this with their idea of importing white South Africans. Is this an impossible idea?

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 36 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Europe could also send over our USA-lovers to MAGA-land. I like the way you think.

[–] Trihilis@ani.social 20 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Yeah just put them all in a big dystopian hellhole, its basically what they want so you're actually making them happy by doing it. They can worship billionaires while complaining about not having any social benefits and experience hardships like a bunch of repressed peasants.

[–] Dearche@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are we doing Escape from New York on a national level? I'm for it.

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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 day ago

They will cry about having their faces eaten off, but it kind of won't be our problem anymore.

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[–] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] ninthant@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago

That’s the perfect meme, because I do feel guilty about how this fucks over my friends and family in the US. But as they don’t seem motivated to fix their own country, I feel like this may be a good way to at least help some people

[–] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've pointed out before that most of the MAGA-land folks in Canada likely currently don't have a viable path to immigrate to the USA, see https://lemmy.ca/post/41215108/15425311 and https://lemmy.ca/post/41215108/15458003

But that doesn't mean we can't make one for them!

I imagine we could easily negotiate something like the Trans-Tasman Travel Arrangement, but between Canada and the USA - but with the additional condition that MAGA is a disqualifying condition for coming to Canada.

Like the TTTA, we should also allow the green card holders in.

[–] ninthant@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago

Yeah likely would need to create a special system of refugee status or similar. Maybe around the concept of escaping “woke-ism”?

[–] TassieTosser@aussie.zone 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We've got a bunch of cookers in Australia we need to dump too.

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[–] rabber@lemmy.ca 53 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And nobody in Canada wants this because 70 million americans voted for Trump

I'd way rather join EU so we get smart people coming into the country

[–] Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 day ago

We do share a land border with Denmark. We settled a border dispute with Denmark on Hans Island. We also have France just a few kilometers off the coast of Newfoundland in St Pierre and Miquelon.

We should use that as a path to EU membership

[–] twopi@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago

I think it's on the State level not the whole US. I'm fine with that.

Would like New England so we can have it unite with New Scotland to form the New United Kingdom and have Prince Albert(a) from New Brunswick be it's Monarch's consort and patron explorers, like Columbus but British so a British Columbia, to sail the seas to claim New Found Land and Labour to teach New English to New France until they can have Nunavut anymore.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 44 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Oh grow a pair and start setting shit on fire.

[–] janus2@lemmy.zip 27 points 1 day ago (3 children)

if yall could do the white house again like last time it'd be much appreciated

[–] swordgeek@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] janus2@lemmy.zip 6 points 16 hours ago

honestly fair enough lol

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[–] medusadeluxe@lemm.ee 44 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It’s me. I’m the 1 in 5 Americans. I would so much rather be there than here.

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (4 children)

No thanks. More Americans is the last thing we need in Canada

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[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The US people wishing one thing and their stupid government doing exactly the opposite. Name a more iconic duo!

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We don’t want US people seceding to Canada. Enough of their individualistic, manifest destiny, American exceptionalism poison mindset. I don’t want any more of that ideology to infect Canada any more than it already has.

[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 13 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

any more than it already has

So many people I know get fuming mad at the idea of higher taxes because they think their income is going to be given to the poor. It's the same 'one good move away from being a millionaire' mentality that drives voters in red states.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 11 points 16 hours ago

I want my taxes going to the poor! Society does better when we raise the floor, like how raising minimum wage also means that everyone else gets bumped up or how it’s cheaper to house the homeless and help them join a workforce as opposed to leaving them out on the streets.

But more specifically I want the ultra-rich to actually pay their fucking taxes! They have the money, they can pony and help a little.

[–] AJ1@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago

This just in: 1 in 5 Americans deported to Salvadoran prisons, selection is random

[–] mrodri89@lemmy.zip 13 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Actually id rather just break the united states into smaller countries.

Finding common ground and priorities with such a large populace is so non-productive.

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[–] No1@aussie.zone 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Mmmmm. Have Canadians considered that these USAians might try to enter their country?

They may need to look at ways to prevent this, idk, maybe like building a wall? Or tariffs. Tariffs work for everything, though I don't really know what they are and can only spell it because of autocorrect.

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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It might be only 20%, but compared to the proportion of Canadians willing to become part of the US being 13%, I find this rather hilarious.

I'd love to see this broken down by state.

[–] egerlach@lemmy.ca 7 points 20 hours ago

warof1812 has entered the chat.

[–] boolean_sledgehammer@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I'll offer you the state of New York. You can have the tax base of NYC. I'm sure most of New England minus New Hampshire would be down with this.

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[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I'm down for that. I live in California, being a Canadian province would double Canada's population and more than double its GDP.

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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Too bad they had a whole war already establishing that's not allowed.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I wonder which states the majority of these people are in.

[–] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It links to a map, https://www.newsweek.com/map-shows-states-most-likely-secede-1870679 (archive: https://archive.ph/oGlKO )

Surprising that support in Alaska (36%) and Texas (31%) is so much higher than the national average, I'd have thought it'd be blue states leading, shows what I know...

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago

Yeah let's take Alaska and complete the whole northern section of the continent!

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

Oh wait, those are just those most likely to secede. Not wanting to join Canada.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Alaska does make sense because of their geographic position but Texas is definitely an outlier.

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[–] cowfodder@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I've suggested that the entire NFC North could just become Canadian providences. Parts of Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Illinois already feel like Canada anyways. Also we'd dominate the CFL!

Full disclosure: I live in Michigan.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'd love for that.

However, as a Canadian ... seeing Michigan go red broke my heart.

[–] cowfodder@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Unfortunately the red sections of Michigan stayed red, and the large groups of voters in the blue sections bought into the whole "genocide Joe" bullshit. The actual vote totals showed that red votes stayed pretty level with the 2020 and 2022 numbers, while blue voters just didn't turn out. Hopefully this is a fucking wake up call.

[–] drcobaltjedi@programming.dev 6 points 1 day ago

As someone in michigan, me too buddy.

[–] zugzwang@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago

As an American I felt the same way about Wayne Gretzky.

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