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A clue in the Valais paper on November 18, 2023, was: “Swiss political party – racist, xenophobic, homophobic, anti-feminist, anti-ecological, anti-poor, nationalist.” The answer: UDC (the French abbreviation for the Swiss People’s Party).

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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

The two men face a 30-day suspended fine.

can somebody give a better translation? I have a sneaky suspicion DeepL screwed the pooch on that one.

(or if it's accurate what's a 30 day fine?)

Either way.... heh. yeah. that's acutally a legitimate complaint, I imagine.

[–] turdas@suppo.fi 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm not sure what it means by suspended, but many countries scale fines based on your earnings, so a "30-day fine" probably refers to approximately 30 days worth of earnings in fines.

[–] JustTesting@lemmy.hogru.ch 6 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Yes a days earning, at least 30.-, at most 3000.- per day, can be converted to equivalent time in jail* or equivalent time doing community work(4 hours community work = 1 day fine). at least 3 days, at most 180 days (more would mandate jail).

suspended means there's a trial period where the punishment isn't enforced and after which it can be fully or partially dropped if the guilty party didn't commit another crime.

And in this case it's 30 days worth of fine, how long the probation period lasts isn't specified. It's usually 2-5 years

*not going to figure out if jail or prison is the right term…

[–] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

no, it means they are on a sort of probation for 30 days. if they cause trouble within that time, they will have to pay the fine on top of whatever new penalties they face.

[–] helvetpuli@sopuli.xyz 12 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Sorry. @turdas@suppo.fi is correct.

The French version of the article uses the term jour-amende which is precisely a fine based on a day's earnings.

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jour-amende

[–] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 3 points 17 hours ago

I stand corrected, thank you for educating me!

[–] postnataldrip@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

NAL but I believe it being suspended means the fine is basically a threat. If they reoffend or fail to meet whatever conditions are set in that 30-day period, then the fine becomes payable.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 22 points 22 hours ago

They can't stand the truth? Snowflakes!

[–] Kennystillalive@feddit.org 18 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Funny how people that call other snowflakes that can't take a joke are the ones that actually can't take a joke / someone being mean to them.

[–] FishFace@piefed.social -4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Hmm. Do you know that party in question has been doing that, or are you just assuming that they do based on association with those right-wing figures you know of who do?

Because the latter is... pretty bad.

[–] Kennystillalive@feddit.org 12 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

They (SVP/UDC) are worse... Here one of their posters (Translation: "Create Security")

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[–] Kennystillalive@feddit.org 10 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Here another one (Translation: "Would you let leftist and good people destroy Switzerland? - Better Vote SVP"):

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As you can see they like to shoot very sharp but can't take it when they are critized.

[–] FishFace@piefed.social -1 points 14 hours ago

No I get they're racist fucks, but do they express disapproval when others go to court over defamation like this? Because the line above was not "the SVP are racist" but "they can't take a joke."

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Does telling the truth count as a defence against libel accusations in Switzerland?

[–] BenjiRenji@feddit.org 4 points 7 hours ago

Yes. Swiss right wing politician Glarner sued for being called a right wing extremist. We're now officially allowed to call him an extremist.