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‘No One Lives Forever’ Turns 25 & You Still Can’t Buy It Legitimately (www.techdirt.com)

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[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Same with Freelancer. The Urquan Masters was a miracle that happened even back then, and its a testament that just having old games available can foster interests into future sequels. It did have one distinct aspect - open source maintenance allowed it to continue functioning well into current day. Maybe that should be an answer more publishers should look into instead of shoddy remasters, since it will keep the interest alive for IP that they own.

The "So?" is basically the entire reason behind Stop Killing Games.

[–] alessandro@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

SKG address a different issue than NOLF's IP hellscape.

When a game is killed it doesn't mean either is free or random shops can sell it without agreement with the right's holder: only people who bought it previously are (and must be) allowed to play.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Please stop defending horribly stretched IP laws, a game several decades old has had plenty of time to make profit. If you don't think Stop Killing Games is appropriate, how about Stop Killing Classics?

[–] alessandro@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I am not defending IP laws, I am avoiding people making confusion about what's SKG scope. I am completely in favor of a similar initiative that addressees IP craziness; but it need to be appropriately represent on what the initiative is about.

Broadly spreading the scope of an initiative is a hostile technique to sink the initiative down: I don't know if you're aware of the PirateSoftware fiasco: he tried to say that the initiative would force companies to keep server online forever... just to basically spread the idea "this is impossible, so SKG is impossible". Luckily SKG initiative was appropriately (and painstakingly patently) readdressed by Ross Scott calling on PirateSoftware, de facto, BS.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Bad example, there are plenty of sites that make abandonware freely available. I just think that the core reason is the same, to Stop Killing Games, but you are right that SKG focuses more on services that stop.

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

This was one of the first two games including an accessible level editor that I ever encountered. I loved the game on its own merits, but I also loved creating multiplayer levels (not that anyone was playing it multiplayer back then).

My favorite level that I created for this game was based on the Mexican hotel shootout from Way of the Gun.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

complained that they may have rights to it and may sue over it.

Sueing over papers they can't find? Meaning, without any proof?

[–] alessandro@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's mostly a poker game: you need to call with money to keep playing, otherwise you "fold" and they win... even if the winner got shitty ("no papers") cards.

[–] who@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago

It's possible that their proof is a paper contract buried in a warehouse someplace. They would presumably have motivation to search for it if someone remastered/remade the game and it got popular.