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The title is a bit misleading, as the article lists diverging analysts' opinions, ranging from Valve willing to sell at a loss or low margins, to high prices due to RAM and SSD price volatility.

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[–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 51 points 1 day ago (3 children)

They can't sell this at a loss, or at least it would be incredibly risky. This is (intentionally) "just a PC". It ships with SteamOS but you can of course install whatever you want, including windows. If it is (much) cheaper than a roughly equivalent normal PC, companies might just start buying them in bulk but obviously not generating the supporting sales needed.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago

I saw in a LTT video that they already claimed they will not be selling this at a loss because they want their hardware division to be self-sustaining.

[–] uzay@infosec.pub 29 points 1 day ago

If they sell it only through Steam as they do with the Steam Deck, companies wouldn't really be able to buy them in bulk.

[–] vrek@programming.dev 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I heard at one point in time the fastest super computer in the world was a cluster of 900 ps3. It was cheaper then buying a single computer and in the beginning of the ps3 era you could easily format and run Linux on them.

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[–] Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I’m calling $700 US price. Valve’s the only company that can get into the console space with console prices since the real revenue source is the game store they run.

Edit: I slept on it and decided $750 is a safer bet, at least on the base model

[–] reev@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The problem is that it makes less sense for them to sell at a loss than for example Xbox or Sony. It's just a capable PC, corporations could buy hundreds or thousands and they wouldn't make a cent off of game sales.

[–] Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago

It's not impossible, however, have you seen what corporations buy for their employees? Saving on upfront cost isn't really part of the equation, it just has to say "dell" and/or "workstation" on it. A large company values long-term support and supply way more than what they'd save by getting a gaming machine.

And besides all that, it's not like the best selling console of all time didn't make money because a (objectively large) minority of owners only used it as a DVD player.

[–] megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 7 hours ago

I don’t think most corporations would be interested in buying a computer that doesn’t include a windows license. Unless they intend to use it for like… server stuff, but they’d be way better off buying like… actual server hardware… if only for the operating cost.

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[–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The article i saw a few days ago specifically mentioned that they didn't really talk about the price but when asked if it would cost more than the ps5 pro they didnt really say no and only offered that it will be priced accordingly to the hardware used to make it. To me, that most likely means it's going to cost around $1k. The absolute max is would ever be willing to pay is like $600. I have no doubt it will sell, but at that $1k price, they will severely limit the group of people that will be buying it. Honestly, if that is the cost, they should be shying away from even associating it as a console and just market it as a PC due to how people think.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 10 points 1 day ago

Yeah, on announcement day people were adamant about it costing less than consoles, but one look at the specs and you'd know there's no way of that happening.

I'd be shocked if it's under $600

[–] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 16 points 6 hours ago

It’s likely in everybody’s best interest that this is a wild success. Not only will game developers be incentivized to actually optimize their games for reasonable setups; this will unseat Nvidia’s monopoly over gamers with their ridiculously overpriced graphics cards and also Microsoft’s monopoly of a gamer’s operating system.

Nvidia’s partnership with Palantir is incredibly concerning and any blow to Nvidia is a welcome one. Encourage these developments and hype this all up.

[–] big_slap@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

no way this thing costs more than 800

[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'm not in the market for the GabeCube but if I were, I'd find a price point of $500-$600 attractive, given it's mostly just laptop tier hardware. I would prefer it over the current gen of consoles, although I don't know if there's gonna be the same level of optimisations for games on this as there is on consoles (most likely not really). It'll be a ripper emulation box, though.

~~Upgradability would've been nice, too. Soldered in RAM is ok for a hand-held device but for this? Nah mate....~~

Edit: The RAM isn't soldered, it uses standard SODIMMs.

[–] forks@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
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[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 14 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

At $1,000 that'd be a hard pass for me even though I love Valve, I could easily build something better for less. I seriously doubt that'll be the price too, it'll probably around $600-800.

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[–] Damage@feddit.it 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Higher RAM price is irrelevant as it acts on the whole market, it's not a disadvantage specific to the Steam Machine

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 20 hours ago

It may act on the whole market, but it doesn't have the same impact on every OEM.

It's a bigger issue for Valve than the console competition, who have established supply chains potentially with fixed prices for certain terms or at least more significant volume discounts, and proprietary compatibility hurdles binding their customers, so they can sell hardware at a loss if they want to.

If Valve sells the computers at a loss they run the risk of people buying them for other uses, without generating corresponding Steam profits.

[–] melfie@lemy.lol 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Here’s a gaming laptop for $700 that I think is similarly powered, except it also has a screen, keyboard, a trackpad and a Windows 11 license that probably represent like $200 of that. I’ll probably pick up a SM if it’s around $500 for the base model, but otherwise, I’ll probably build something instead.

https://www.newegg.com/msi-thin-a15-15-6-geforce-rtx-4060-laptop-gpu-amd-ryzen-5-7535hs-16gb-memory-512-gb-nvme-ssd/p/N82E16834156873

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[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 10 points 1 day ago

It has a midrange graphics card, it can't cost more than 5 or 6 hundred

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm ready, but Amd is not. I want 4k 120hz on my TV via Amd videocard. But this stupid hdmi forum is blocking this.

[–] far_university1990@reddthat.com 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Displayport to HDMI 2.1 adapter?

Regardless, fuck HDMI

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] vividspecter@aussie.zone 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I have one working from cablematters. It's slightly finicky (maybe driver issues) but supports HDR, vrr, and 4k@120hz.

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[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Was this an active or passive adapter?

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[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It has display port as well, for the picky

[–] Viirax@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago

Sure, but most TVs don't, which is the main issue with wanting to connect any Linux AMD build to a TV

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[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If this post is intended as discussion material; No, not as long that I have my stationary computer that fills my gaming needs.

[–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I guess if you have a stationary computer that fills your gaming needs you really aren't the target group regardless of the price.

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[–] Jagget@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago

Whatever the price, I most likely will buy it.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I will only consider buying it if it's half that price. Also I'm in a specific intersect of necessary mobility & content with what I have.

[–] muhyb@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago

Even if it won't be that high, it's definitely gonna cost more than Steam Deck.

[–] Canuck@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

I have a desktop, but would buy it for the bespoke compact hardware to fit in the TV console. The dedicated antennas are a clear sell as well.

Right now I Steam Link via Shield, but I need wired or a better router to do any low latency play.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I bought a fancy desktop PC recently so I'm not in the market. Otherwise I would consider it, but only if the desktop environment was usable for general computing. I believe it is, but I'm not sure if its version of Linux would be best for like software development.

Best? Depending on what you do, probably not. That being said I have a friend with whom I code from time to time, and he uses the desktop mode for that. He uses nix packages to setup his development environments and seems happy with it.

This is more work than I'd personally like (I am lazy) but it does not sound so bad.

[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

I really would like to upgrade to a steam cube as my current PC is about 15 years old just with upgraded RAM, storage, and graphics but i also only play games that came out over a decade ago too

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